Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment

[Mr Gray]

G-Unit will not nail her colours to any particular sedative mast and this is why:

Apparently  it is common for parents to administer an antihistamine to children to help them sleep.  It is not illegal to do so and as it is so common, and could be argued that the child was given the antihistamine for perfectly legitimate reasons then finding traces of the antihistamine in a body of a child that died accidentally would not necessitate a cover up.

This therefore means that whilst "everyone and his dog" is giving their kids antihistamine left right and centre, it's obviously not a plausible "sceptic" theory that it happened in this case, which means they have to turn their attention to more sinister, possibly illegal sedatives, none of which they seem able or willing to name, nor provide any evidence for their use.

Yes Alfred
Rather than say they had given Maddie antihistamines because she seemed to have a touch of hay fever
They have embarked on eight years of perjury and fraud
A wonderful example of sceptic logic

[jassi]

If it was sarcasm why did you attempt to justify your remark with a cite?

Because you asked for one - always happy to oblige 

[Mr Gray]

G-Unit will not nail her colours to any particular sedative mast and this is why:

Apparently  it is common for parents to administer an antihistamine to children to help them sleep.  It is not illegal to do so and as it is so common, and could be argued that the child was given the antihistamine for perfectly legitimate reasons then finding traces of the antihistamine in a body of a child that died accidentally would not necessitate a cover up.

This therefore means that whilst "everyone and his dog" is giving their kids antihistamine left right and centre, it's obviously not a plausible "sceptic" theory that it happened in this case, which means they have to turn their attention to more sinister, possibly illegal sedatives, none of which they seem able or willing to name, nor provide any evidence for their use.

Why use anything illegal when a simple dose of antihistamine ...perfectly legal...does the job so well

[Alfred R Jones]

Because you asked for one - always happy to oblige 

That was foolish, you should have simply acknowledged that your remark was sarcasm and therefore irrelevant to the discussion.

[Brietta]

Who saw Chloe Godding falling?

Only her father who saw her falling forward from the corner of his eye.

Who saw Chloe hit her head?

No-one.  It is thought "she may have struck her head."

Chloe was seen to fall forward, but the Portuguese pathologist determined death was due to "a severe head injury following a blow to the back of the head," a finding which was not corroborated by a second post mortem carried out in the UK.

With all due respect to Chloe Godding's parents who have suffered a life changing event one has to wonder why an "unexplained death" of a toddler which relies on the testimony of her parents for the sequence of events leading up to it has made an appearance on a Madeleine McCann board where we have come full circle yet again to cast innuendo after innuendo at her parents who have also suffered a life changing event.

The Drs McCann have no no control over knowing what happened to Madeleine just as Mr and Mrs Godding had no control over what happened to Chloe, but will eventually be able to reconcile to what happened because they experienced it.  Madeleine McCann's parents have not been able to experience that closure.

Chloe's death is unexplained.  Pathologists disagree the cause and an open verdict was recorded by the coroner.

Madeleine's disappearance is unexplained.

One has to wonder the driving force behind the hatred that can sustain a nine year campaign of vitriol against a bereaved family because of their determination to discover what happened to their daughter.

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[stephen25000]

Who saw Chloe Godding falling?

Only her father who saw her falling forward from the corner of his eye.

Who saw Chloe hit her head?

No-one.  It is thought "she may have struck her head."

Chloe was seen to fall forward, but the Portuguese pathologist determined death was due to "a severe head injury following a blow to the back of the head," a finding which was not corroborated by a second post mortem carried out in the UK.

With all due respect to Chloe Godding's parents who have suffered a life changing event one has to wonder why an "unexplained death" of a toddler which relies on the testimony of her parents for the sequence of events leading up to it has made an appearance on a Madeleine McCann board where we have come full circle yet again to cast innuendo after innuendo at her parents who have also suffered a life changing event.

The Drs McCann have no no control over knowing what happened to Madeleine just as Mr and Mrs Godding had no control over what happened to Chloe, but will eventually be able to reconcile to what happened because they experienced it.  Madeleine McCann's parents have not been able to experience that closure.

Chloe's death is unexplained.  Pathologists disagree the cause and an open verdict was recorded by the coroner.

Madeleine's disappearance is unexplained.

One has to wonder the driving force behind the hatred that can sustain a nine year campaign of vitriol against a bereaved family because of their determination to discover what happened to their daughter.

'Madeleine's disappearance is unexplained.'

I'm pleased to here that from a Mccann supporter.

A statement of fact.

[Mr Gray]

'Madeleine's disappearance is unexplained.'

I'm pleased to here that from a Mccann supporter.

A statement of fact.

Has any supporter said it was explained

[G-Unit]

Has any supporter said it was explained

Posted repeatedly about an 'abduction' by an 'abductor' could lead one to think that is a fact when it isn't.

[Mr Gray]

Posted repeatedly about an 'abduction' by an 'abductor' could lead one to think that is a fact when it isn't.

Of course abduction is not a fact and I have never said it was

[Alfred R Jones]

Posted repeatedly about an 'abduction' by an 'abductor' could lead one to think that is a fact when it isn't.

So could you please tell us what sedative you believe may have been administered to Madeleine McCann?

[Brietta]

Of course abduction is not a fact and I have never said it was

All other avenues having been investigated the balance of probability lies with Madeleine McCann having been abducted from the McCann apartment in May 2007.
There is an absence of evidence to suggest otherwise ... the absence of Madeleine points to an abductor and an abduction.

If all the investigative avenues had been exhausted at the time and the search for a missing child had taken priority over the determination to replicate the Cipriano conviction the question of what may have happened to Madeleine might have been answered.

There is a mystery about what happened to Chloe Godding and many unanswered questions that no-one will ever be able to get to the bottom of.  Neither her parents ~ the medical profession ~ or the coroner will ever be able to give a definitive interpretation of events.

Why the Drs McCann, their family and all with the most tenuous association with them are pilloried on a daily basis and all sorts of rubbish bandied about concerning them, must surely be one of the most reprehensible 'mysteries' of Madeleine McCann's case.

[Alice Purjorick]

All other avenues having been investigated the balance of probability lies with Madeleine McCann having been abducted from the McCann apartment in May 2007.
There is an absence of evidence to suggest otherwise ... the absence of Madeleine points to an abductor and an abduction.

If all the investigative avenues had been exhausted at the time and the search for a missing child had taken priority over the determination to replicate the Cipriano conviction the question of what may have happened to Madeleine might have been answered.

There is a mystery about what happened to Chloe Godding and many unanswered questions that no-one will ever be able to get to the bottom of.  Neither her parents ~ the medical profession ~ or the coroner will ever be able to give a definitive interpretation of events.

Why the Drs McCann, their family and all with the most tenuous association with them are pilloried on a daily basis and all sorts of rubbish bandied about concerning them, must surely be one of the most reprehensible 'mysteries' of Madeleine McCann's case.

Is this merely your opinion or do you know it as a fact with some documentary evidence of same you would care to share with us?

[Mr Gray]

Is this merely your opinion or do you know it as a fact with some documentary evidence of same you would care to share with us?

loads of documentary evidence.....
Amaral blames the parents on a hunch..same as cipriano
no real evidence against the parents...mccanns and cipriano

pj put pressure on parents to confess


all documented

[stephen25000]

All other avenues having been investigated the balance of probability lies with Madeleine McCann having been abducted from the McCann apartment in May 2007.
There is an absence of evidence to suggest otherwise ... the absence of Madeleine points to an abductor and an abduction.

If all the investigative avenues had been exhausted at the time and the search for a missing child had taken priority over the determination to replicate the Cipriano conviction the question of what may have happened to Madeleine might have been answered.

There is a mystery about what happened to Chloe Godding and many unanswered questions that no-one will ever be able to get to the bottom of.  Neither her parents ~ the medical profession ~ or the coroner will ever be able to give a definitive interpretation of events.

Why the Drs McCann, their family and all with the most tenuous association with them are pilloried on a daily basis and all sorts of rubbish bandied about concerning them, must surely be one of the most reprehensible 'mysteries' of Madeleine McCann's case.

Merely because she disappeared does not support abduction, anymorw than any other theory.