Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website

[Benice]

I still don't understand what those concerns actually are...

Me neither.  Especially as so many of the 'concerns' and claims previously expressed - have been shown to be erroneous.

[stephen25000]

Me neither.  Especially as so many of the 'concerns' and claims previously expressed - have been shown to be erroneous.

Which concerns are erroneous ?

[Carana]

Which concerns are erroneous ?

The ones that got him into rather a lot of legal trouble, perhaps?

[Benice]

Which concerns are erroneous ?

The ones which ultimately caused him to end up in court. - and lose his case. 

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[Carana]

I'm still intrigued as to what Blonk's "concerns" are:

To put it simply, if it does nothing else, the petition servers as a rallying point for those who have concerns about the case as a whole and the very strange investigations - both private and official - that have gone on to try and solve it. 

If you're trying to promote a petition, wouldn't it be helpful to explain what they are?

[Lace]

stephen25000 quite rightly referred to details of all the people they were re-interviewing with those utterly farcical sets of 254 pre-prepared rogatory interview questionnaires; IIRC one question was: "Did you kill Madeleine McCann?"

But over and above that, during late 2012 and most of 2013 we had an endless procession of Scotland Yard-sourced stories, about:

* burglars
* men in a white van
* an Ocean Club staff member with a spare set of keys
* a black bloke from the Cape Verde Islands who once drove a tractor but is now dead
* more burglars
* a smelly bin man
* paedophiles...

..and so on.

They have given a running commentary on their investigation beyond any that I have ever seen in any other investigation here or abroad.

I would pose this question: was all of that leaking something that really advanced their investigation?

Or was it just to influence public perception?        

I believe it was the Portuguese police who were investigating tractor man.

Some of the others where high lighted because they were trying to find out who the person was who abused children in their beds.

Didn't they show a picture of the top the person wore?   with the circle on the back of it?

Are you questioning how SY run their investigation?   You know better than them do you?   All you know is what the rest of us know and that is that SY have been following up leads that need to be ruled out.

I think probably you question them as they have said the McCann's and their friends are not suspects,  maybe if they were you would certainly be behind them all the way.

[Lace]

NO. Nothing. The general view is that Operation Grange will be wound down completely and 'shelved' before very long.

And that when it does, there will prpbably be a short statement saying something like this:

"We have put a Herculaen effort into this"

"We have left no stone unturned"

"Nobody could have done more than we have, and we've used some of the Met's top detectives" 

"We have followed x hundred lines of enquiry, checked x tens thousands of documents, checked x thousand  mobile phone records. checked out x hundred paedophiles, checked out x dozen suspects and persons of interest..."

"...But are no nearer to finding out what happened to Madeleine".

For anyone who has closely followed each and every one of Redwood's utterances and who saw the Crimewatch McCann Special in 2013, it is likely they may also end up saying something like this:

"We now know - after finding Crecheman - that Madeleine was abducted, possibly by a burglar, between 9.10pm and 10.00pm on Thursday 3 May. We think he murdered Madeleine. But despite our best efforts, we stlil don't know who this was".       

Those who have signed the petition want a much better account than that for what the Met has achieved after five years and £12 million

So,  those who sign the petition demand a much better account than the one predicted by you.

Why?    Do you think you are more important?   that you know that SY should have achieved more?    are you an ex private detective?   do you know exactly how SY have investigated this case?

You know nothing more than the rest of us.

They had to investigate a cold case for a start,   that in itself is a much more difficult task than having to investigate a case from day one.    They have had to communicate with the PJ which has been difficult as every request has had to be granted and has taken time.   

You have no idea and neither do the rest of us what has gone into this case,   12 million is not a huge amount considering what they have done.

You foresee the outcome,   and even if it is true that they have no idea where Madeleine is,  they have done their thorough best with the investigation and I don't think anyone could have done better.

What do you think you are going to achieve by demanding more from them?

[Lace]

I'm still intrigued as to what Blonk's "concerns" are:

To put it simply, if it does nothing else, the petition servers as a rallying point for those who have concerns about the case as a whole and the very strange investigations - both private and official - that have gone on to try and solve it. 

If you're trying to promote a petition, wouldn't it be helpful to explain what they are?

The only concerns I can see is that Blonk is disappointed that the McCann's are not suspects.

[pathfinder73]

The only concerns I can see is that Blonk is disappointed that the McCann's are not suspects.

Being a suspect or not doesn't prove anything because that can quickly change.

The husband of a missing Gloucestershire woman is no longer suspected of her murder, police have confirmed. 28 JAN 2009

Adrian Prout, the husband of retired teacher Kate Prout, who disappeared 16 months ago from her 200-acre farm in Redmarley D'Abitot, Gloucestershire, has been charged with her murder. 10 MAR 2009

[Carana]

Soz.

So, yet again, what are Blonk's concerns?

[Brietta]

Soz.

So, yet again, what are Blonk's concerns?

I'm not quite sure ... something along the lines of he/she is unhappy that Operation Grange are ignoring Madeleine McCann's innocent parents and spending a lot of money in the search for perpetrators or a perpetrator of the crime against her.

Don't know why it needs a petition though, unless as intimated in an earlier post to "remind" politicians.

I can see that the numbers queuing (not) to add their signatures in a demonstration of people power probably won't have the politicians quaking in their shoes ... unless it is with derision or laughter. 

[Carana]

Why is Blonk promoting a petition on here if he doesn't wish to explain what the concerns actually are?

If the concerns aren't actually explained, anyone could sign up to a petition that the moon is made of blue cheese - and some quite probably do.

[stephen25000]

Why is Blonk promoting a petition on here if he doesn't wish to explain what the concerns actually are?

If the concerns aren't actually explained, anyone could sign up to a petition that the moon is made of blue cheese - and some quite probably do.

Perhaps they are flat earther's,  and I can imagine the type of people who might follow that doctrine , along with those second comers.

[Carana]

Ostensibly, the petition is directed towards questioning the UK law enforcement agencies...