Gonçalo Amaral should never have been taken off the case!

[Brietta]

Ah repetition of the mantra.

leaving children by themselves, leaves them prone to a variety of dangers, including accidents within the apartment.

KEY POINT, the children were not being watched or supervised, apart from infrequent and mostly unverified checks.

I believe you have reached the wrong conclusion with with regard to your "KEY POINT".

In my opinion the first key point is that Madeleine McCann vanished from her bed on 3rd May 2007.

The second key point is that Goncalo Amaral was entirely the wrong person to have been appointed to lead the case of a missing child. 

At the time there were too many questions hanging over the head of the man ... not least the one which was the reason for his arguido status.

Leaving the book aside for the moment.  I think that nothing the man has subsequently said or done in the intervening period illustrates his inadequacy more than one of his latest outbursts ... which not even the most ardent sceptic has picked up to run with.


Maddie's parents' anguish over disgraced detective's coffin claims
08:21, 17 JUN 2014
BY ELEANOR BARLOW

**Snip
Speaking earlier to a Portuguese ­newspaper and its TV channel, Amaral, sacked after botching the initial hunt for Madeleine, repeated his claims the youngster is dead.

But he suggested the McCanns hid her body in the woman’s coffin at Praia da Luz catholic church – which they had a key for – a month after she vanished in 2007.

Amaral added: “The mystery will only end when the McCann couple are no longer being protected. Only then will we understand the truth.”

But a source close to the couple said: “These are sickening allegations that no sane person would believe.

“It’s about time people realised what Mr Amaral is, a liar and a fantasist. He has been making these false claims since he was sacked.

“He is suggesting Kate and Gerry moved Madeleine’s body a month after she vanished.

"At that time they were the most-watched couple in the history of the modern media.”
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-hid-body-7277975


Absolutely incredible that this man who saw conspiracy theories round every corner which had as much basis as his 'coffin theory' did, which is absolutely zilch in my reckoning is held up as the bastion of all that is great and good and is the fountain of all knowledge.

His bosses in the PJ latterly obviously didn't share his opinion of himself ... else why sack him from the investigation?

[stephen25000]

I believe you have reached the wrong conclusion with with regard to your "KEY POINT".

In my opinion the first key point is that Madeleine McCann vanished from her bed on 3rd May 2007.

The second key point is that Goncalo Amaral was entirely the wrong person to have been appointed to lead the case of a missing child. 

At the time there were too many questions hanging over the head of the man ... not least the one which was the reason for his arguido status.

Leaving the book aside for the moment.  I think that nothing the man has subsequently said or done in the intervening period illustrates his inadequacy more than one of his latest outbursts ... which not even the most ardent sceptic has picked up to run with.


Maddie's parents' anguish over disgraced detective's coffin claims
08:21, 17 JUN 2014
BY ELEANOR BARLOW

**Snip
Speaking earlier to a Portuguese ­newspaper and its TV channel, Amaral, sacked after botching the initial hunt for Madeleine, repeated his claims the youngster is dead.

But he suggested the McCanns hid her body in the woman’s coffin at Praia da Luz catholic church – which they had a key for – a month after she vanished in 2007.

Amaral added: “The mystery will only end when the McCann couple are no longer being protected. Only then will we understand the truth.”

But a source close to the couple said: “These are sickening allegations that no sane person would believe.

“It’s about time people realised what Mr Amaral is, a liar and a fantasist. He has been making these false claims since he was sacked.

“He is suggesting Kate and Gerry moved Madeleine’s body a month after she vanished.

"At that time they were the most-watched couple in the history of the modern media.”
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-hid-body-7277975


Absolutely incredible that this man who saw conspiracy theories round every corner which had as much basis as his 'coffin theory' did, which is absolutely zilch in my reckoning is held up as the bastion of all that is great and good and is the fountain of all knowledge.

His bosses in the PJ latterly obviously didn't share his opinion of himself ... else why sack him from the investigation?

Your opinion of courser.

..and of no value to any investigation.

[stephen25000]

I believe you have reached the wrong conclusion with with regard to your "KEY POINT".

In my opinion the first key point is that Madeleine McCann vanished from her bed on 3rd May 2007.

The second key point is that Goncalo Amaral was entirely the wrong person to have been appointed to lead the case of a missing child. 

At the time there were too many questions hanging over the head of the man ... not least the one which was the reason for his arguido status.

Leaving the book aside for the moment.  I think that nothing the man has subsequently said or done in the intervening period illustrates his inadequacy more than one of his latest outbursts ... which not even the most ardent sceptic has picked up to run with.


Maddie's parents' anguish over disgraced detective's coffin claims
08:21, 17 JUN 2014
BY ELEANOR BARLOW

**Snip
Speaking earlier to a Portuguese ­newspaper and its TV channel, Amaral, sacked after botching the initial hunt for Madeleine, repeated his claims the youngster is dead.

But he suggested the McCanns hid her body in the woman’s coffin at Praia da Luz catholic church – which they had a key for – a month after she vanished in 2007.

Amaral added: “The mystery will only end when the McCann couple are no longer being protected. Only then will we understand the truth.”

But a source close to the couple said: “These are sickening allegations that no sane person would believe.

“It’s about time people realised what Mr Amaral is, a liar and a fantasist. He has been making these false claims since he was sacked.

“He is suggesting Kate and Gerry moved Madeleine’s body a month after she vanished.

"At that time they were the most-watched couple in the history of the modern media.”
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-hid-body-7277975


Absolutely incredible that this man who saw conspiracy theories round every corner which had as much basis as his 'coffin theory' did, which is absolutely zilch in my reckoning is held up as the bastion of all that is great and good and is the fountain of all knowledge.

His bosses in the PJ latterly obviously didn't share his opinion of himself ... else why sack him from the investigation?

Let's not forget the sources close tyo the couple.

Namely the McCann's way of accusation without becoming directly involved.

[ferryman]

How would you know anything....

Amaral's track-record of two investigations I know something about, McCann and Cipriano.

[stephen25000]

Amaral's track-record of two investigations I know something about, McCann and Cipriano.

..and of course you're not the least bit biased.

[Brietta]

Your opinion of courser.

..and of no value to any investigation.

Actually I think that rather sums up Mr Amaral's situation.   " ..and of no value to any investigation."

Occasionally you do come up with a rather pertinent point.

Goncalo Amaral ... in my opinion ... put a blight on any hope there may have been of recovering Madeleine from his first formulation of his theory in the case to his last miscalculation.
One wonders how quickly this ineptitude became obvious to his superiors ... and why they allowed it to progress to the stage it did.

[Eleanor]

Actually I think that rather sums up Mr Amaral's situation.   " ..and of no value to any investigation."

Occasionally you do come up with a rather pertinent point.

Goncalo Amaral ... in my opinion ... put a blight on any hope there may have been of recovering Madeleine from his first formulation of his theory in the case to his last miscalculation.
One wonders how quickly this ineptitude became obvious to his superiors ... and why they allowed it to progress to the stage it did.

Too busy keeping an eye on the thugs in Lisbon, possibly.

[stephen25000]

Too busy keeping an eye on the thugs in Lisbon, possibly.

Utter rubbish.

He was the case coordinator.

Try stopping that clichéd myth that no one was searching for Madeleine.

Many people did that for weeks and months, including the police.


Unlike her parents, who stopped searching the morning after, the night she disappeared.

[Mr Gray]

Utter rubbish.

He was the case coordinator.

Try stopping that clichéd myth that no one was searching for Madeleine.

Many people did that for weeks and months, including the police.


Unlike her parents, who stopped searching the morning after, the night she disappeared.

amaral should never have been on the case with his background

[Benice]

You do know that Amaral was a very successful cop in Portugal with arrests and record drug busts? He was respected by his colleagues. You don't see any bad-mouthing him after he left the force. You do that 

And yet according to Sofia he was passed over for a promotion which he fully expected to get.

[Carana]

And yet according to Sofia he was passed over for a promotion which he fully expected to get.

Where exactly did this "record drug busts" assertion come from?

[ferryman]

Where exactly did this "record drug busts" assertion come from?

Nigel Moore (who else)?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/20-dec8/MCCANNFILES-05-12-08.htm

[pathfinder73]

And yet according to Sofia he was passed over for a promotion which he fully expected to get.

I don't know about promotions but if he was breaking records in Portugal for his work then it sounds reasonable.

"Gonçalo was nominated, still as an Agent, to head a Investigation Squad at the DCITE. Anyone who was with that department at that time, will remember that the results that were achieved by that Squad, under the charismatic leadership of Gonçalo Amaral, soon surpassed the average statistics. The numbers that were achieved by him and his men, both in terms of arrested individuals, and of narcotics or possessions and valuables that were apprehended, or even of condemnations in court, marked an epoch at the DCITE and set an example.

I know. I remember it well. I was there." 
Lisboa, July 3, 2008,
João Fernandes Figueira
A.S.F.I.C./P.J. member nr. 711

GA: If we are talking about the Irish family's testimony that I have referred to, then it has an enormous relevance to the investigation.

[Benice]

I don't know about promotions but if he was breaking records in Portugal for his work then it sounds reasonable.

"Gonçalo was nominated, still as an Agent, to head a Investigation Squad at the DCITE. Anyone who was with that department at that time, will remember that the results that were achieved by that Squad, under the charismatic leadership of Gonçalo Amaral, soon surpassed the average statistics. The numbers that were achieved by him and his men, both in terms of arrested individuals, and of narcotics or possessions and valuables that were apprehended, or even of condemnations in court, marked an epoch at the DCITE and set an example.

I know. I remember it well. I was there." 
Lisboa, July 3, 2008,
João Fernandes Figueira
A.S.F.I.C./P.J. member nr. 711

GA: If we are talking about the Irish family's testimony that I have referred to, then it has an enormous relevance to the investigation.

According to Sofia - this is the reason why he was overlooked:-

Quote
He was the man in Portugal who seized most drugs, but as he didn't have the time to parade himself in the corridors of the PJ's institution, he was not promoted. A disgrace, madam, a disgrace!
Unquote

So apparently according to Sofia -  your record of success doesn't count with the PJ authorities when it comes to promotion.  Dear me - how insulting to the PJ is that? 

[ShiningInLuz]

I believe you have reached the wrong conclusion with with regard to your "KEY POINT".

In my opinion the first key point is that Madeleine McCann vanished from her bed on 3rd May 2007.

The second key point is that Goncalo Amaral was entirely the wrong person to have been appointed to lead the case of a missing child. 

At the time there were too many questions hanging over the head of the man ... not least the one which was the reason for his arguido status.

Leaving the book aside for the moment.  I think that nothing the man has subsequently said or done in the intervening period illustrates his inadequacy more than one of his latest outbursts ... which not even the most ardent sceptic has picked up to run with.


Maddie's parents' anguish over disgraced detective's coffin claims
08:21, 17 JUN 2014
BY ELEANOR BARLOW

**Snip
Speaking earlier to a Portuguese ­newspaper and its TV channel, Amaral, sacked after botching the initial hunt for Madeleine, repeated his claims the youngster is dead.

But he suggested the McCanns hid her body in the woman’s coffin at Praia da Luz catholic church – which they had a key for – a month after she vanished in 2007.

Amaral added: “The mystery will only end when the McCann couple are no longer being protected. Only then will we understand the truth.”

But a source close to the couple said: “These are sickening allegations that no sane person would believe.

“It’s about time people realised what Mr Amaral is, a liar and a fantasist. He has been making these false claims since he was sacked.

“He is suggesting Kate and Gerry moved Madeleine’s body a month after she vanished.

"At that time they were the most-watched couple in the history of the modern media.”
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-hid-body-7277975


Absolutely incredible that this man who saw conspiracy theories round every corner which had as much basis as his 'coffin theory' did, which is absolutely zilch in my reckoning is held up as the bastion of all that is great and good and is the fountain of all knowledge.

His bosses in the PJ latterly obviously didn't share his opinion of himself ... else why sack him from the investigation?

I'll be happy to pick up the coffin story, as I am quite interested in how this tale came about.  Does anyone have a link to the Portuguese newspaper and/or TV article?  I would like to see something closer to the original wording than the Liverpool Echo.  Or is there a further source in English?