Author Topic: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?  (Read 42090 times)

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ferryman

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2016, 06:45:31 PM »
Pinning down the reasons why Amaral was removed can only be a matter of conjecture, because (so far as I'm aware) there's nothing in the files that tells us, or even makes reference to Amaral's removal.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2016, 06:50:10 PM »
It's a no brainer why he was removed - he cocked up the Madeleine investigation and he was an arguido in another missing child case.  Aren't those grounds enough for removal?

ferryman

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2016, 06:54:28 PM »
It's a no brainer why he was removed - he cocked up the Madeleine investigation and he was an arguido in another missing child case.  Aren't those grounds enough for removal?

The paradox is that what you cite ought to have been the reasons why he was never appointed in the first place.

Yet he was.

And despite his removal, the McCanns were made arguidos.

I believe the prosecutors said the decision (to make them arguidos) was justified.

Am I wrong about that?

Offline Carana

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2016, 06:55:19 PM »
Pinning down the reasons why Amaral was removed can only be a matter of conjecture, because (so far as I'm aware) there's nothing in the files that tells us, or even makes reference to Amaral's removal.

The national PJ director said it was for "obvious reasons".

He had infringed PJ regulations. He had also done so in a rather spectacular way by creating an embarrassing diplomatic incident.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2016, 06:55:38 PM »
It's a no brainer why he was removed - he cocked up the Madeleine investigation and he was an arguido in another missing child case.  Aren't those grounds enough for removal?

Whatever he did, it's a great pity they didn't remove him sooner.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2016, 06:57:35 PM »
The national PJ director said it was for "obvious reasons".

He had infringed PJ regulations. He had also done so in a rather spectacular way by creating an embarrassing diplomatic incident.
I suspect the fact that the UK media picked up on the fact that he was an arguido himself was a source of some embarrassment for the PT authorities, hence they got rid of him as soon as he provided enough rope with which to be hanged.

stephen25000

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2016, 07:00:15 PM »
It's a no brainer why he was removed - he cocked up the Madeleine investigation and he was an arguido in another missing child case.  Aren't those grounds enough for removal?

Fascinating.

He was the case coordinator, and not alone in his belief of parental involvement.

If a foreign government or police force interfered in a UK investigation, I would tend to suggest the head of the investigation in the UK would be more than just a bit miffed.

Offline Carana

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2016, 07:05:51 PM »
It's a no brainer why he was removed - he cocked up the Madeleine investigation and he was an arguido in another missing child case.  Aren't those grounds enough for removal?

I'm not sure that it was about his bizarre theories as it's not clear how much was actually known further up the PJ / judicial chain, beyond Encarnação and the regional Public Ministry.

The half-baked PJ leaks can't have been making relations easy, but no one further up seems to have done much about it until his infamous outburst.


Offline Carana

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2016, 08:34:12 PM »
Fascinating.

He was the case coordinator, and not alone in his belief of parental involvement.

If a foreign government or police force interfered in a UK investigation, I would tend to suggest the head of the investigation in the UK would be more than just a bit miffed.

In what way did the UK law enforcement agencies "interfere"?

They were attempting to provide assistance to an under-resourced local police force. It may have better for the PJ to just have one LE agency as an interlocutor instead of many, but I don't see how they "interfered".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2016, 10:05:45 PM »
In what way did the UK law enforcement agencies "interfere"?

They were attempting to provide assistance to an under-resourced local police force. It may have better for the PJ to just have one LE agency as an interlocutor instead of many, but I don't see how they "interfered".

Not just interfering but hampering;

Secret Madeleine McCann report finds competing British forces hampered inquiry
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11068928/Secret-Madeleine-McCann-report-finds-competing-British-forces-hampered-inquiry.html
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2016, 10:27:17 PM »
Not just interfering but hampering;

Secret Madeleine McCann report finds competing British forces hampered inquiry
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11068928/Secret-Madeleine-McCann-report-finds-competing-British-forces-hampered-inquiry.html

an article in the DM is proof of nothing

Offline mercury

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2016, 02:04:03 AM »
an article in the DM is proof of nothing

its a telegraph article not a DM one and it quotes parts of a govt commissioned report....so yes, proof of more than "nothing"

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« Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 08:00:45 AM by Eleanor »

stephen25000

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2016, 07:56:14 AM »
its a telegraph article not a DM one and it quotes parts of a govt commissioned report....so yes, proof of more than "nothing"

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« Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 08:01:16 AM by Eleanor »

Offline Lace

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2016, 09:56:47 AM »
Fascinating.

He was the case coordinator, and not alone in his belief of parental involvement.

If a foreign government or police force interfered in a UK investigation, I would tend to suggest the head of the investigation in the UK would be more than just a bit miffed.

The PJ welcomed the British police assistance.

Amaral was coordinator of the case and came up with his theory of what happened to Madeleine after that ever other points of investigation was stopped,   even though he misunderstood the DNA results.

I think if a head of investigation in the UK misunderstood the DNA results and then decided his/her  theory was correct and no other theory of what happened to a child was considered,  then I would hope that that person would be removed from the investigation,  especially as police were telling this person he was wrong.

stephen25000

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2016, 09:59:55 AM »
The PJ welcomed the British police assistance.

Amaral was coordinator of the case and came up with his theory of what happened to Madeleine after that ever other points of investigation was stopped,   even though he misunderstood the DNA results.

I think if a head of investigation in the UK misunderstood the DNA results and then decided his/her  theory was correct and no other theory of what happened to a child was considered,  then I would hope that that person would be removed from the investigation,  especially as police were telling this person he was wrong.

The possibility of death in the apartment has not been disproved.

Amaral's removal from the investigation smacks of political intervention.