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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #105 on: February 18, 2016, 07:15:29 PM »
There has been little 'media presence' going on since the end was achieved of having Madeleine's case reopened.

                                                Madeleine ... remember her??

The little girl who all the publicity and media presence has been about.  There are people who have raised various objections to the cost of this, you may have read some of their objections or maybe not??

As the anniversary of Madeleine's abduction with her birthday a few days later approaching ... there is interest ... and while there is, there is an excellent opportunity to ensure people remember exactly what and who all the expense is about.

It is also worth mulling over what 'active' or 'live' means in the context of an investigation.

No amount of money is going to find Maddie. AND no amount of money is going to find out what happened to her if this was the case, then she would have been found by now.

 There will be no arrests as no one is going to confess, and any witnesses to any abduction will have been eliminated or would be threatened with implication. If Maddie is dead her remians will be well disposed of- if she is alive she may not be aware or her situation, or who she really is, and may not care to be reunited to her real parents if she was made aware.

This forum is guilty of being used as a platformnot to talk about Maddie or her suffering ( which her parents claim came to no harm), but to defend the parents at all costs. SO bit hypocritical to mention Maddie being the centre of all media attention brought by her mother for her 'charity'.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline jassi

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #106 on: February 18, 2016, 07:16:41 PM »
That is quite ridiculous,  but the norm with some,  because they left the children they must be lying about everything.   All the other friends left their children too but no one says anything about them.

So they did and I don't believe much of what they have said, either.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Lace

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #107 on: February 18, 2016, 07:21:38 PM »
I believe the McCann's are quite right in keeping the twins 'in the loop'.    They are explaining everything to them and letting them know exactly what is happening so that they know the truth,   then if anything is said to them they do not feel upset that they are hearing something that they didn't have a clue about,  also if anything untoward is said they know that the person is wrong and will be able to react accordingly.

There is no way the twins can be kept from all the goings on,  the McCann's can't stop them finding things out as they get older,  neither,  as they want the hunt to continue for Madeleine can the McCann's  just sweep everything under the carpet as if Madeleine didn't exist.

For some now to say that they feel sorry for the twins and what they are having to put up with when they go to school is just nine years too late.    People should have thought of the twins from word go and have refrained from calling their parents murders and liars,  accusing them of all sorts of things when nothing has been proven.   

The McCann's would have had help with dealing with the twins and what they should know and how they should be told,   they are coming along fine Kate said so they sound as though they are level headed and normal children.

All this 'living in Madeleine's shadow'   is ludicrous,  they know they have a missing sister and that she is being looked for,  they are leading normal lives otherwise.

As for the twins raising money for 'No Stone Unturned'  as anyone stopped to wonder if the school itself suggested it and not the McCann's?


Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #108 on: February 18, 2016, 07:22:55 PM »
That is quite ridiculous,  but the norm with some,  because they left the children they must be lying about everything.   All the other friends left their children too but no one says anything about them.

They appear to be maintaining a "hull down" position. Out of sight out of mind.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

stephen25000

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #109 on: February 18, 2016, 07:27:27 PM »
I believe the McCann's are quite right in keeping the twins 'in the loop'.    They are explaining everything to them and letting them know exactly what is happening so that they know the truth,   then if anything is said to them they do not feel upset that they are hearing something that they didn't have a clue about,  also if anything untoward is said they know that the person is wrong and will be able to react accordingly.

There is no way the twins can be kept from all the goings on,  the McCann's can't stop them finding things out as they get older,  neither,  as they want the hunt to continue for Madeleine can the McCann's  just sweep everything under the carpet as if Madeleine didn't exist.

For some now to say that they feel sorry for the twins and what they are having to put up with when they go to school is just nine years too late.    People should have thought of the twins from word go and have refrained from calling their parents murders and liars,  accusing them of all sorts of things when nothing has been proven.   

The McCann's would have had help with dealing with the twins and what they should know and how they should be told,   they are coming along fine Kate said so they sound as though they are level headed and normal children.

All this 'living in Madeleine's shadow'   is ludicrous,  they know they have a missing sister and that she is being looked for,  they are leading normal lives otherwise.

As for the twins raising money for 'No Stone Unturned'  as anyone stopped to wonder if the school itself suggested it and not the McCann's?

What you should say, is they are telling the children their version of events.

The truth of what actually happened is not known.

However, using your own children to fill the fund is in my view quote disgusting.

Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions, and why can't they put their own money in the fund ???

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #110 on: February 18, 2016, 07:32:06 PM »
All the other friends left their children too but no one says anything about them.

Conspicuous by their absence!
 
Their children will also know and read about how their parents treated them. One day one of the children will talk and it may not be what the parents will be wanting to hear.

I believe there was a case to answer in so far as bringing their company' NHS 'into disrepute.  BIG door closed and they are all protected.

Very creepy selfish,arrogant bunch in my opinion.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Carana

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #111 on: February 18, 2016, 07:32:58 PM »
The other thing to think about is the affect on their mental health and well being. Kate n Gerry are adults, very media savvy and have an agenda. They told the twins at an early age that a bad man took Maddie. They are probably telling the kids that people round the world believe them and nasty trolls are liars...but the twins will suffer, they are being exploited in a cruel,disgusting way much the same as they exploit the name of a then 3 year old child.

Kate wants to be very famous and very rich, her behaviour is making sure of that. She wants to bring her children on board to validate that she is the best mum ever.Big sister Maddie would have something to say about that! She wants people to believe that if Maddie is found alive: they will be reunited and Maddie will be very happy that her family paid people to look for her- mibees not so happy about being'abducted', and Maddie will tell the world it was not her parents fault at all... Could Hans Christian Andersen beat this one?

What on earth are you talking about?

Are you sure that you haven't mixed up Kate (mother of a missing child) with some football WAG?

Offline jassi

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #112 on: February 18, 2016, 07:35:12 PM »
What on earth are you talking about?

Are you sure that you haven't mixed up Kate (mother of a missing child) with some football WAG?

Nah, she hasn't got the right physical attributes. Bet she's high maintenance, though.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Lace

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #113 on: February 18, 2016, 07:40:24 PM »
What you should say, is they are telling the children their version of events.

The truth of what actually happened is not known.

However, using your own children to fill the fund is in my view quote disgusting.

Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions, and why can't they put their own money in the fund ???

I should imagine they tell the twins exactly what happened and what SY think happened too.

Using their own children to fill the fund?   Don't be ridiculous,   they are probably all doing a sponsored silence or something in their class for pennies for god's sake.   Are you saying that children who need an op abroad or what ever  can't have the school they attend to have a sponsored walk or whatever to raise money for it?   It's all money with you isn't it,  why is that?   The fund is there to find Madeleine not for the McCann's themselves.

As to taking responsibility for their own actions what do you think  they were doing when they were campaigning for a review?   Which then  got the case reopened.

How do you know they haven't used their own money?   Money!! what is it with you Stephen?

Offline Brietta

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #114 on: February 18, 2016, 07:40:43 PM »
I believe the McCann's are quite right in keeping the twins 'in the loop'.    They are explaining everything to them and letting them know exactly what is happening so that they know the truth,   then if anything is said to them they do not feel upset that they are hearing something that they didn't have a clue about,  also if anything untoward is said they know that the person is wrong and will be able to react accordingly.

There is no way the twins can be kept from all the goings on,  the McCann's can't stop them finding things out as they get older,  neither,  as they want the hunt to continue for Madeleine can the McCann's  just sweep everything under the carpet as if Madeleine didn't exist.

For some now to say that they feel sorry for the twins and what they are having to put up with when they go to school is just nine years too late.    People should have thought of the twins from word go and have refrained from calling their parents murders and liars,  accusing them of all sorts of things when nothing has been proven.   

The McCann's would have had help with dealing with the twins and what they should know and how they should be told,   they are coming along fine Kate said so they sound as though they are level headed and normal children.

All this 'living in Madeleine's shadow'   is ludicrous,  they know they have a missing sister and that she is being looked for,  they are leading normal lives otherwise.

As for the twins raising money for 'No Stone Unturned'  as anyone stopped to wonder if the school itself suggested it and not the McCann's?

There is no option, Lace.

Even if the twins' parents wanted to shield them, and I am sure they would like to, it would be an impossibility.  They need therefore to be equipped to be able to deal with anything which will come their way.
The only way that can happen is if they are in full possession of all the facts past present and future.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #115 on: February 18, 2016, 07:44:51 PM »
I should imagine they tell the twins exactly what happened and what SY think happened too.

Using their own children to fill the fund?   Don't be ridiculous,   they are probably all doing a sponsored silence or something in their class for pennies for god's sake.   Are you saying that children who need an op abroad or what ever  can't have the school they attend to have a sponsored walk or whatever to raise money for it?   It's all money with you isn't it,  why is that?   The fund is there to find Madeleine not for the McCann's themselves.

As to taking responsibility for their own actions what do you think  they were doing when they were campaigning for a review?   Which then  got the case reopened.

How do you know they haven't used their own money?   Money!! what is it with you Stephen?

No Lace.

It is clearly the mccanns who are consumed with obtaining money.

So when have they used the money they've earned to pay for 'searching' ?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #116 on: February 18, 2016, 07:45:27 PM »
I would have thought that some of the comments directed at their parents, should the twins have heard of it, almost certainly would upset the twins.

I certainly would not have been comfortable if this had been directed at my parents.  And I came from a family whom I felt loved me and strove hard to get better for me than they had themselves.

And this is the nub of the problem.  Who wins in a battle, IF that battle is the twins v the world, or even just some elements of the world?  Let me think.  12 year old immature, inexperienced brains v fully grown, experienced and hostile brains?

Or even 12 year old, immature, inexperienced brains v other 12 year old, inexperienced but hostile brains.

I wouldn't let my kids go into either situation.

Which is why I would not be letting my kids run Madeleine cash-raising schemes in secondary school (they haven't done that yet, I know).  Which is why I would insist with the media that they had a right to privacy (it's not their fault they got headlines, is it?).  Which is why, in advance, I would be putting other safeguards in place with their school.  (Not crossing fingers and hoping.)

As a person with a near-total lack of empathy (that's me), I can see it all coming.  Some of it is unavoidable.  Much of it is.  I may not do empathy, but I do do foresight combined with action.

The twins deserve at least that. They should not be tabloid fodder.
Why don't you have any empathy?  Have you been tested and found to be devoid of the ability to empathise generally, or only in this case?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #117 on: February 18, 2016, 07:45:41 PM »
What on earth are you talking about?

Are you sure that you haven't mixed up Kate (mother of a missing child) with some football WAG?

Well exactly my point. Why court publicity and thrust your children into a cruel media cess pit?
 This reminds me of Pish n Pecks and their  brood... or Katie Price being famous for having fake boobs and victim of every(love/sex) crime you can think of- and other non entities who are famous for nothing much really. They hog the Sun and other low rated mediums because they are non stories. Real journalism is not to be found in such rags.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Lace

Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #118 on: February 18, 2016, 07:47:36 PM »
All the other friends left their children too but no one says anything about them.

Conspicuous by their absence!
 
Their children will also know and read about how their parents treated them. One day one of the children will talk and it may not be what the parents will be wanting to hear.

I believe there was a case to answer in so far as bringing their company' NHS 'into disrepute.  BIG door closed and they are all protected.


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Very creepy selfish,arrogant bunch in my opinion.

Conspicuous by their absence you say,  and you know this how?

Are you waiting for one of the children to turn on it's parents,   what a nasty mind you have.

All protected,   CONSPIRACY is it?     Funny the McCann's were made arguido's.

You think the friends are all selfish and arrogant all by reading their statements,  you sound weird and arrogant to me.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Should The McCann Twins Be Tabloid Fodder ?
« Reply #119 on: February 18, 2016, 07:48:31 PM »
Wow two McCann knockers honest enough to admit they do't "do" empathy, what about the rest of you guys though?