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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10620 on: June 16, 2021, 10:20:06 AM »
I predict you won’t get a straight answer to this question, it’s already been asked several times before.  Eddie simply can’t be wrong, end of debate.

I doubt any 'answers' will be forthcoming.  Even the most avid of deniers cannot refute the evidence that (a) Eddie alerted to coconut and (b) Eddie alerted to tissue used for a post coital clean up and (c) if there was an alert to any residual human cadaver scent it was as a result of legitimately scattered remains from a cremation.

Worth noting that had it not been known about the scattering of ashes taking place at that location ~ Eddie's alert would have been added to the legend that is Praia da Luz.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10621 on: June 16, 2021, 10:49:18 AM »
I doubt any 'answers' will be forthcoming.  Even the most avid of deniers cannot refute the evidence that (a) Eddie alerted to coconut and (b) Eddie alerted to tissue used for a post coital clean up and (c) if there was an alert to any residual human cadaver scent it was as a result of legitimately scattered remains from a cremation.

Worth noting that had it not been known about the scattering of ashes taking place at that location ~ Eddie's alert would have been added to the legend that is Praia da Luz.

I can see no point, as I already said, in continuing this discussion. I've achieved what I set out to do, which was to discover what evidence existed to support such claims as are still being made. i.e. "the evidence that (a) Eddie alerted to coconut". As some people are unable to understand that cadaver dogs don't alert to the scent of coconuts, there's no point in continuing to try to enlighten them imo.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10622 on: June 16, 2021, 10:56:55 AM »
I can see no point, as I already said, in continuing this discussion. I've achieved what I set out to do, which was to discover what evidence existed to support such claims as are still being made. i.e. "the evidence that (a) Eddie alerted to coconut". As some people are unable to understand that cadaver dogs don't alert to the scent of coconuts, there's no point in continuing to try to enlighten them imo.
@)(++(* Patronizing, much?  Do you understand that dogs can falsely alert?  What do you think it is that they are alerting to when it's a false alert? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #10623 on: June 16, 2021, 11:13:34 AM »
I can see no point, as I already said, in continuing this discussion. I've achieved what I set out to do, which was to discover what evidence existed to support such claims as are still being made. i.e. "the evidence that (a) Eddie alerted to coconut". As some people are unable to understand that cadaver dogs don't alert to the scent of coconuts, there's no point in continuing to try to enlighten them imo.

No one has said the dog alerted to the scent of a coconut.. I think unconcious cueing may have played a part. If you are trying to enlighten me you really are wasting  your time... Im sure you dont have the knowledge.
First you say you dont wish to continue the discussion then you continue to post... Perhaps I can enlighten you

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10624 on: June 16, 2021, 12:23:28 PM »
No one has said the dog alerted to the scent of a coconut.. I think unconcious cueing may have played a part. If you are trying to enlighten me you really are wasting  your time... Im sure you dont have the knowledge.
First you say you dont wish to continue the discussion then you continue to post... Perhaps I can enlighten you

I know I'm wasting my time, that's why I stopped. You lot want to carry on, though, don't you?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #10625 on: June 16, 2021, 12:35:18 PM »
I think its Eddie cant be proved to be wrong.. I think hes wrong  quite a lot

I'm pretty sure he's dead.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10626 on: June 16, 2021, 12:46:25 PM »
I know I'm wasting my time, that's why I stopped. You lot want to carry on, though, don't you?
It's a discussion that's never going to go away so why pretend you've said all you're going to say on the matter?  You know that dogs can and do falsely alert but for some reason you can't bring yourself to admit that Eddie could have got it wrong in HdlG, indeed there's overwhelming evidence that he did but you refuse to see it.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10627 on: June 16, 2021, 12:55:11 PM »
I'm pretty sure he's dead.

I sometimes wonder who will be still alive when this case finally grinds to a halt.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10628 on: June 16, 2021, 12:55:49 PM »
I sometimes wonder who will be still alive when this case finally grinds to a halt.
Such optimism.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #10629 on: June 16, 2021, 01:04:03 PM »
I can see no point, as I already said, in continuing this discussion. I've achieved what I set out to do, which was to discover what evidence existed to support such claims as are still being made. i.e. "the evidence that (a) Eddie alerted to coconut". As some people are unable to understand that cadaver dogs don't alert to the scent of coconuts, there's no point in continuing to try to enlighten them imo.

It was a coconut shell and always was a coconut shell from the time it found itself lying in what became through time a Victorian layer.
Eddie alerted to the general area where on excavation the coconut shell was found.  It looked suspiciously like a fragment of a child's skull which the anthropologist thought it could be.
But Lenny Harper was in a hurry to release the information to the world in an arranged press conference so the fragment was not scientifically tested.  Eddie was called for and alerted as per his training - therefore the hundred odd year old nut casing was certified as being from a child's skull.
Which even if it had been was outwith the parameters of the investigation.  It wasn't human though but it was enough to set the ball rolling.

As some people are unable to understand that no-one knows what cadaver dogs alert to without forensic or other information (the scattering of ashes in Haute de la Garenne for example) is introduced into the equation whether the scent of coconuts emanating from concrete layers or the scent in the corner of a bedroom, there's no point in continuing to try to enlighten them, but it is fun to watch them squirm 😁

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10630 on: June 16, 2021, 01:13:35 PM »
It's a discussion that's never going to go away so why pretend you've said all you're going to say on the matter?  You know that dogs can and do falsely alert but for some reason you can't bring yourself to admit that Eddie could have got it wrong in HdlG, indeed there's overwhelming evidence that he did but you refuse to see it.

Even the Judicial Police recognised the anomalies when they questioned Eddie's technique of bypassing objects and only alerting to them later.

You are right, the dogs won't go away.  They are necessary to 'justify' the bile which has been spewed over the McCanns for so many years.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #10631 on: June 16, 2021, 01:22:54 PM »
I know I'm wasting my time, that's why I stopped. You lot want to carry on, though, don't you?

Youre welcome to stop but I think you have no right to tell others what they should and shouldn’t post about... Or do you think you do have that right.
You talk about enlightening posters... I dont think you are in a position to do that.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2021, 02:57:19 PM by Davel »

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #10632 on: June 17, 2021, 08:31:36 AM »
A proper test of the dogs would be to take two dogs and two handlers to a crime scene. They did this in the the Gilroy case and only one dog alerted.. The other didnt. Why didnt they accept the negative alert.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2021, 08:50:36 AM by Davel »

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #10633 on: June 17, 2021, 09:41:21 AM »
A proper test of the dogs would be to take two dogs and two handlers to a crime scene. They did this in the the Gilroy case and only one dog alerted.. The other didnt. Why didnt they accept the negative alert.

Please provide a cite.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #10634 on: June 17, 2021, 10:07:36 AM »
Please provide a cite.

Are you not aware of this