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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11235 on: October 23, 2021, 07:34:50 AM »
IMO Jim Gamble is assuming a child would immediately start screaming the moment an abductor started trying to remove them but I don’t brlieve it is a given and in fact there is video evidence of another child being abducted from their room in their sleep (an American case which we’ve discussed before) which proves it is entirely possible to do so silently.

Why do you believe Gamble is making assumptions?  Isn't it just the case that stranger abduction is a rare scenario, so he's just telling it as it is.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #11236 on: October 23, 2021, 08:00:23 AM »
Why do you believe Gamble is making assumptions?  Isn't it just the case that stranger abduction is a rare scenario, so he's just telling it as it is.
I’m talking about his assumption that a sleeping child being abducted would wake up and scream.  Obviously it’s an assumption so unless he has some scientific evidence to back up his assertion I can’t see what else it could be.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #11237 on: October 23, 2021, 09:01:33 AM »
I’m talking about his assumption that a sleeping child being abducted would wake up and scream.  Obviously it’s an assumption so unless he has some scientific evidence to back up his assertion I can’t see what else it could be.

I don't think it is an assumption.

I think the evidence is that drowsy or sleeping children do not kick and scream when being abducted.

In the instance of the one case we know of when a child was abducted from her bath ~ she made no noise.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #11238 on: October 23, 2021, 09:13:46 AM »
Why do you believe Gamble is making assumptions?  Isn't it just the case that stranger abduction is a rare scenario, so he's just telling it as it is.

We all know that stranger abduction is rare.. But it seems the most likely scenario in this case

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #11239 on: October 23, 2021, 09:15:59 AM »
Yet you generally still believe rare stranger abduction is the more likely
scenario in the McCann case.

Absolutely
100%......that is where all the evidence points

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11240 on: October 23, 2021, 10:05:51 AM »
Absolutely
100%......that is where all the evidence points

Which evidence points towards abduction?

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #11241 on: October 23, 2021, 10:12:22 AM »
Which evidence points towards abduction?

I've explained it all before... you won't accept it but I'm right

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11242 on: October 23, 2021, 10:51:30 PM »
I've explained it all before... you won't accept it but I'm right

I can't remember you explaining anything other than a good attempt at discrediting the dog evidence (which, however good, I still don't agree with); the open window; and a strange statistical assumption that it is the most likely scenario. That's very little to be so assured  that you know the absolute truth.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11243 on: October 23, 2021, 10:53:00 PM »
I can't remember you explaining anything other than a good attempt at discrediting the dog evidence (which, however good, I still don't agree with); the open window; and a strange statistical assumption that it is the most likely scenario. That's very little to be so assured  that you know the absolute truth.

You have to read a little more... I've never claimed the absolute truth... Just the most likely by far
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

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« Reply #11244 on: October 23, 2021, 10:57:21 PM »
You have to read a little more... I've never claimed the absolute truth... Just the most likely by far

In your opinion... and not based on anything concrete other than it's the most likely scenario.

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #11245 on: October 23, 2021, 11:12:20 PM »
In your opinion... and not based on anything concrete other than it's the most likely scenario.

Based on all the available evidence... What make you think CB is not involved

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #11246 on: October 24, 2021, 05:40:00 AM »
Based on all the available evidence... What make you think CB is not involved

The absence in credible evidence of his involvement?
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Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #11247 on: October 24, 2021, 09:09:36 AM »
I can't remember you explaining anything other than a good attempt at discrediting the dog evidence (which, however good, I still don't agree with); the open window; and a strange statistical assumption that it is the most likely scenario. That's very little to be so assured  that you know the absolute truth.


The blessed open window which had , had its shutter broken, which is on record that GM told his sister of such, then Mitchell went on record later to say no such thing occurred and that K&G are of the opinion someone came into the room and  went out the window as their means of escape, it was that easy CB left no evidence of such.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #11248 on: October 24, 2021, 02:11:14 PM »

The blessed open window which had , had its shutter broken, which is on record that GM told his sister of such, then Mitchell went on record later to say no such thing occurred and that K&G are of the opinion someone came into the room and  went out the window as their means of escape, it was that easy CB left no evidence of such.

The problem with sceptics is I think the demonstrable lack of the ability to take in and absorb information despite how many times it is imparted.

There is absolutely nothing in your post which has not been gone over ad nauseam and resolved.  On the other hand I think most issues can be addressed if a modicum of common sense were to be employed.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

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« Reply #11249 on: October 25, 2021, 10:30:41 PM »
The problem with sceptics is I think the demonstrable lack of the ability to take in and absorb information despite how many times it is imparted.

There is absolutely nothing in your post which has not been gone over ad nauseam and resolved.  On the other hand I think most issues can be addressed if a modicum of common sense were to be employed.

The question of the window has certainly not been resolved in my opinion. I'm more than happy to listen to well researched argument and the presentation of information. I just haven't seen anything on this forum to support the theory that CB was involved, nor have I seen any concrete evidence of rare stranger abduction, No-one on this forum has even successfully accounted for "Smithman". Yet there's a strong conviction from the "pro McCann" posters that CB is 100% guilty based on the flimsiest of circumstantial evidence that is in the public domain.