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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13965 on: September 06, 2022, 07:22:18 PM »
Actual examples or hints?
Examples of how excepts from her diary were mistranslated. 
Incidentally and on another subject, what I found interesting re-reading part of Kate’s book just now is that she corroborates Amaral’s claim that the PJ knocked on CB’s door years before he made it.  “Door-to-door inquiries appeared to have been delayed and haphazard.  If nobody was home, too bad: as far as I could tell they didn’t get a second visit….

Nigt after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and of the horrific crimes they’d committed.  The police went to visit some of them, looked around their apartments and recorded merely “No sign of the minor”.  Was that enough to eliminate these vile characters from the inquiry?”

Now I seem to recall you preferred to believe Amaral made up the PJ’s attempt to make contact with CB but it would seem that evidence for such an attempt likely languishes in parts of the files we have never been privy to.  Now you’re going to tell us Kate made up all of the above I suppose…
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13966 on: September 06, 2022, 07:53:10 PM »
Examples of how excepts from her diary were mistranslated. 
Incidentally and on another subject, what I found interesting re-reading part of Kate’s book just now is that she corroborates Amaral’s claim that the PJ knocked on CB’s door years before he made it.  “Door-to-door inquiries appeared to have been delayed and haphazard.  If nobody was home, too bad: as far as I could tell they didn’t get a second visit….

Nigt after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and of the horrific crimes they’d committed.  The police went to visit some of them, looked around their apartments and recorded merely “No sign of the minor”.  Was that enough to eliminate these vile characters from the inquiry?”

Now I seem to recall you preferred to believe Amaral made up the PJ’s attempt to make contact with CB but it would seem that evidence for such an attempt likely languishes in parts of the files we have never been privy to.  Now you’re going to tell us Kate made up all of the above I suppose…


And mistranslations in the statements?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13967 on: September 06, 2022, 08:04:54 PM »
Examples of how excepts from her diary were mistranslated. 
Incidentally and on another subject, what I found interesting re-reading part of Kate’s book just now is that she corroborates Amaral’s claim that the PJ knocked on CB’s door years before he made it.  “Door-to-door inquiries appeared to have been delayed and haphazard.  If nobody was home, too bad: as far as I could tell they didn’t get a second visit….

Nigt after night, I read of depraved individuals, British paedophiles, Portuguese paedophiles, Spanish, Dutch and German paedophiles, and of the horrific crimes they’d committed.  The police went to visit some of them, looked around their apartments and recorded merely “No sign of the minor”.  Was that enough to eliminate these vile characters from the inquiry?”

Now I seem to recall you preferred to believe Amaral made up the PJ’s attempt to make contact with CB but it would seem that evidence for such an attempt likely languishes in parts of the files we have never been privy to.  Now you’re going to tell us Kate made up all of the above I suppose…

The PJ had no evidence with which to rule these sex offenders in, so what was Kate expecting the police to be able to do?
They couldn't simply turn over their apartments & haul them all in for questioning, they'd need warrants for that.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13968 on: September 06, 2022, 08:22:06 PM »

And mistranslations in the statements?
She gives no specific examples in her book but she writes “I knew only too well from my interviews with thePJ how words and meanings could get lost in translation “.  Of course you think she lies about everything but to someone less blinkered and biased this certainly has the ring of truth to it, and even you admit mistranslations were likely.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13969 on: September 06, 2022, 08:24:20 PM »
The PJ had no evidence with which to rule these sex offenders in, so what was Kate expecting the police to be able to do?
They couldn't simply turn over their apartments & haul them all in for questioning, they'd need warrants for that.

Especially if there are as many sex offenders in the area as we are lead to believe.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13970 on: September 06, 2022, 08:29:54 PM »
Especially if there are as many sex offenders in the area as we are lead to believe.

I wonder how many of these paedos had previous for abducting children though, rather than them just molesting a family member or child of a friend/associate?
I'll bet anything they were all abductors & not just paedos, given all the child abductions that occurred around Luz.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #13971 on: September 06, 2022, 09:02:44 PM »
Especially if there are as many sex offenders in the area as we are lead to believe.
Yeah, they may as well not have bothered at all, far too much like hard work.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #13972 on: September 06, 2022, 09:10:32 PM »
Yeah, they may as well not have bothered at all, far too much like hard work.

I agree, because let's face reality here, investigating paedos isn't getting Wolters anywhere.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13973 on: September 06, 2022, 10:02:32 PM »
Yeah, they may as well not have bothered at all, far too much like hard work.

Do you really think that any police force has the manpower or budget to chase up every paedophile living within any large village unless they’ve had some intelligence first? Further if Brueckner had been in what could the police have done without a shred of evidence?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13974 on: September 06, 2022, 10:25:35 PM »
Do you really think that any police force has the manpower or budget to chase up every paedophile living within any large village unless they’ve had some intelligence first? Further if Brueckner had been in what could the police have done without a shred of evidence?
Like I said, they may as well not have bothered at all, seeing as they had neither the time, the resources or the appropriate powers to investigate paedophiles or search their properties.  So, next time a child disappears off the face of the earth without a trace don’t whatever  you do expect the police to properly investigate known paedophiles  in the area. That would be more than their jobs are worth!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13975 on: September 06, 2022, 10:34:19 PM »
Like I said, they may as well not have bothered at all, seeing as they had neither the time, the resources or the appropriate powers to investigate paedophiles or search their properties.  So, next time a child disappears off the face of the earth without a trace don’t whatever  you do expect the police to properly investigate known paedophiles  in the area. That would be more than their jobs are worth!

Were any of the paedophiles known to abduct children?
We know Brueckner wasn't, so there was no good reason to suspect him in particular really.
So he nonced two kids in Germany 12 years prior? He should immediately be suspected of abducting Maddie based on that should he?
Bit of stretch really isn't it.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #13976 on: September 06, 2022, 10:39:24 PM »
On average how many “known paedophiles” would there be living in your average Portugues “large village” I wonder?  A dozen?  A hundred?  A thousand? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #13977 on: September 06, 2022, 10:43:06 PM »
Obviously if a child goes missing in mysterious circumstances that very last people you should spend time and money investigating are the local paedos. 

From the PJ Manual of Missing Children Investigation Top Tips: “Save time and money by knocking on local paedos’ doors and walking away before they even have a chance to come to the door, then cross them off as not relevant to the investigation.”
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13978 on: September 06, 2022, 10:46:25 PM »
On average how many “known paedophiles” would there be living in your average Portugues “large village” I wonder?  A dozen?  A hundred?  A thousand?

Wasn’t it hundreds according to the headlines?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #13979 on: September 06, 2022, 10:48:55 PM »
Obviously if a child goes missing in mysterious circumstances that very last people you should spend time and money investigating are the local paedos. 

From the PJ Manual of Missing Children Investigation Top Tips: “Save time and money by knocking on local paedos’ doors and walking away before they even have a chance to come to the door, then cross them off as not relevant to the investigation.”

How were they supposed to go about investigating them?
They'd need to arrest them to be able to question them & they'd need a warrant to be able to search their homes & vehicles, & for both those things to happen, they'd need intel/evidence against the particular paedo, & as it happens, they didn't have any Intel or evidence at all that paedos, in particular, could be responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance.
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