Wandering Off Topic

[Brietta]

Thank you for your opinions. (Not really; they are nasty and vicious imo). It is, of course, a fact that Kate McCann decined to answers the questions put to her as an arguido and her husband didn't.

My opinions are honest ones requiring no input at all from whatever conspiracy theories or theorist are doing the rounds.

Kate McCann was perfectly entitled as an arguido, to refuse to answer questions put to her.

Despite Gerry McCann answering each and every question put to him the Portuguese inquisitor still managed to infringe his rights.
As an arguido he was entitled to see the evidence being used against him.  Despite asking he was not allowed to see the forensic evidence the PJ were using against him and on which the PJ had based their case.

One wonders was that because of all the people in the room he was the only one who might have understood it.

It was certainly subsequently proved that the PJ hadn't a clue what they were on about.

Which brings me back to musing on why the PJ had Brueckner on their radar all those years ago and why they didn't follow it through.

[Brietta]

What IS undeniably nasty and vicious is to still be pointing the finger at the parents of a child who police stongly believe was abducted and murdered by a paedophile 15 years ago.  That’s deeply unpleasant indeed IMO.

I think it is something far worse than unpleasant.

We play at "debating" a human life.  The one time little girl who might be a young lady now - has she been allowed to survive.

To suffer from the inability to have some or any inkling about the feelings of her family and all who knew and loved her at this terrible time and still to go out of the way to get the boot in, takes a special type of individual.

[Brietta]

Does repeating this mantra achieve anything I wonder? Some supporters seem able to discuss the evidence without resorting to such ploys, you know.

I know of no-one who hopes against hope for the best outcome for Madeleine McCann to rely on 'mantras'.  The investigation into her disappearance is all evidence based and needs no "ploys" and never has done.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Does repeating this mantra achieve anything I wonder? Some supporters seem able to discuss the evidence without resorting to such ploys, you know.

you brought up the subject of “ nasty and vicious” behavior, something that you often claim to be a victim of, I was merely pointing out what nasty and vicious behaviour really looks like -  unlike the McCanns you have never been on the receiving end of it. Count yourself very fortunate.

[faithlilly]

My opinions are honest ones requiring no input at all from whatever conspiracy theories or theorist are doing the rounds.

Kate McCann was perfectly entitled as an arguido, to refuse to answer questions put to her.

Despite Gerry McCann answering each and every question put to him the Portuguese inquisitor still managed to infringe his rights.
As an arguido he was entitled to see the evidence being used against him.  Despite asking he was not allowed to see the forensic evidence the PJ were using against him and on which the PJ had based their case.

One wonders was that because of all the people in the room he was the only one who might have understood it.

It was certainly subsequently proved that the PJ hadn't a clue what they were on about.

Which brings me back to musing on why the PJ had Brueckner on their radar all those years ago and why they didn't follow it through.

I believe as an arguido Brueckner has the same rights as Madeleine’s parents, to see the evidence against him. Strangely I don’t see you championing his right to fully transparency from the police, in fact quite the opposite.

[Eleanor]

I believe as an arguido Brueckner has the same rights as Madeleine’s parents, to see the evidence against him. Strangely I don’t see you championing his right to fully transparency from the police, in fact quite the opposite.

The German Prosecution is obliged to produce the evidence when someone is charged.

[Brietta]

The German Prosecution is obliged to produce the evidence when someone is charged.

Which is precisely the procedure followed under German jurisdiction in relation to the five crimes with which he has been currently been charged. 

Madeleine's case is still ongoing meaning there is no such requirement to share anything at present.  I think that only if it is decided to charge him, will he and his legal team be given access to the evidence against him.

[faithlilly]

The German Prosecution is obliged to produce the evidence when someone is charged.

He is an arguido in Portugal, not Germany, so, like Madeleine’s parents, has a right to hear the evidence against him.

[faithlilly]

Which is precisely the procedure followed under German jurisdiction in relation to the five crimes with which he has been currently been charged. 

Madeleine's case is still ongoing meaning there is no such requirement to share anything at present.  I think that only if it is decided to charge him, will he and his legal team be given access to the evidence against him.

Again he is an arguido in Portugal and therefore should be afforded the same rights as Madeleine’s parents when they were arguidos.

[Wonderfulspam]

What IS undeniably nasty and vicious is to still be pointing the finger at the parents of a child who police stongly believe was abducted and murdered by a paedophile 15 years ago.  That’s deeply unpleasant indeed IMO.

Get back to us if the police ever prove anyone other than the McCanns did it then won't you.
Now longer much be shouldn't it.

[sadie]

If only the PJ had searched the landfill nearest PDL this mystery may have been solved 15 years ago.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/11/29/quinton-simon-fbi-says-remains-found-in-landfill-belong-to-toddler-17846236/

No it wouldn't.   Madeleine lived on and I have a multitude of pointers to that.  All the psychics believe her still alive and I do too.   SY seem to think it possible/likely too, because they are not agreeing with either the German Police or the PJ that she is dead.

There is a strong faction that is making an inordinate amount of noise in an affort to change the publics perception.   They are desperate to have her believed dead it seems.


I wonder why?  There has to be a reason.

[sadie]

Kate might yet have to take the stand against Brueckner & tell the court how the curtains just blew open.
A decent cross examination would be interesting.

With a bit of technical know how you would understand this.

And no, I am not going to go over it all again.   Unless wiped it is all there, on forum, several times

[sadie]

Why has my last post been wiped?   I was about to modify it but found that it was not on forum.

All I wanted to do was add "In my opinion" to it.

If you do release it, please make sure that is added.   


Thank you,
              sadie

[Myster]

Why has my last post been wiped?   I was about to modify it but found that it was not on forum.

All I wanted to do was add "In my opinion" to it.

If you do release it, please make sure that is added.   


Thank you,
              sadie

Your post won't have been wiped intentionally, Sadie.  It usually occurs if you refresh the page or you go to a different page then return to your message and find it has disappeared completely.  It's happened to me, and no doubt others, many times in the past and is very frustrating, especially if your post is long and you haven't saved it just in case.  A quirk in the site software, I'm afraid.

[G-Unit]

I know of no-one who hopes against hope for the best outcome for Madeleine McCann to rely on 'mantras'.  The investigation into her disappearance is all evidence based and needs no "ploys" and never has done.

The mantra I'm referring to is accusing others of being insensitive and cruel to the 'poor McCanns'. Discussing the facts of the case means discussing all the facts, not just those their supporters approve of.