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Offline Sunny

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3915 on: August 01, 2018, 11:42:54 PM »
Davel means Cliff Richard. He has recently sued the BBC and won as they arranged for a helicopter to film his house being searched by police.  Apparently it was a "right to privacy" that he won on.   Somehow I can't see SY phoning up the BBC to tell them they were doing a raid on the McCanns house, IMO it has cost us licence fee payers enough with the Cliff debacle.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #3916 on: August 01, 2018, 11:43:27 PM »
I am. How would the media know?
It is their job to look for stories and to know what is going on by fair means or foul and to report it.  The McCanns being questioned by the police as suspects again would be a massive news story, papers have their sources, someone could make a fair bit of cash out of divulging such information, it would certainly be on the front pages IMO.  Ask Cliff, refers to Cliff Richard whose house was searched whilst live images were broadcast by the BBC as part of a child sex abuse investigation.  If it can happen to him why not the McCanns?
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Offline misty

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« Reply #3917 on: August 02, 2018, 01:18:08 AM »
It is their job to look for stories and to know what is going on by fair means or foul and to report it.  The McCanns being questioned by the police as suspects again would be a massive news story, papers have their sources, someone could make a fair bit of cash out of divulging such information, it would certainly be on the front pages IMO.  Ask Cliff, refers to Cliff Richard whose house was searched whilst live images were broadcast by the BBC as part of a child sex abuse investigation.  If it can happen to him why not the McCanns?

Some say there is a Super-Injunction in place which would prevent the media reporting such an event.....

Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #3918 on: August 02, 2018, 05:51:55 AM »
Some say there is a Super-Injunction in place which would prevent the media reporting such an event.....
Then wouldn't the super-injunction be a story of itself?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3919 on: August 02, 2018, 06:45:02 AM »
Then wouldn't the super-injunction be a story of itself?

If there is a super injunction the media wouldn't be able to tell us. Adam Tudor of Carter-Ruck knows all about them. He was, I believe, involved in the infamous Trafigura case and a row with the Guardian;

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/oct/20/trafigura-anatomy-super-injunction

Funnily enough, Kevin Halligen was also involved with Trafigura;

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/former-ceo-london-based-company-sentenced-41-months-prison-21-million-fraud-scheme


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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #3920 on: August 02, 2018, 07:19:41 AM »
Some say there is a Super-Injunction in place which would prevent the media reporting such an event.....
Some people have an answer for everything.   Can you get a super-injunction to preventing the reporting of police activity?
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Offline slartibartfast

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« Reply #3921 on: August 02, 2018, 07:42:39 AM »
As you all should be aware, discussing Super Injunctions or even the existence of one is a no no.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3922 on: August 02, 2018, 08:02:04 AM »
As you all should be aware, discussing Super Injunctions or even the existence of one is a no no.
What super injunction?  Super injunctions make anything and everything possible for the conspiracy theorist.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3923 on: August 02, 2018, 08:53:07 AM »
If there is a super injunction the media wouldn't be able to tell us. Adam Tudor of Carter-Ruck knows all about them. He was, I believe, involved in the infamous Trafigura case and a row with the Guardian;

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/oct/20/trafigura-anatomy-super-injunction

Funnily enough, Kevin Halligen was also involved with Trafigura;

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/former-ceo-london-based-company-sentenced-41-months-prison-21-million-fraud-scheme
What they would even be able to tell us there was a super injunction?
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #3924 on: August 02, 2018, 09:06:52 AM »
What they would even be able to tell us there was a super injunction?

One wonders if the writ of the all seeing eye which apparently cannot be mentioned by mere mortals runs not only internationally but also intergalactically to gag the press of America et al and the 'free press' of the internet.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3925 on: August 02, 2018, 09:38:26 AM »
One wonders if the writ of the all seeing eye which apparently cannot be mentioned by mere mortals runs not only internationally but also intergalactically to gag the press of America et al and the 'free press' of the internet.
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In my opinion one of the advantages of the internet is that measures which stop the reporting of misconduct by those with the resources to pay for them is that they are difficult to enforce on the internet.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #3926 on: August 02, 2018, 09:39:14 AM »
One of the advantages of the internet is that measures which stop the reporting of misconduct by those with the resources to pay for them is that they are difficult to enforce on the internet.

Difficult or even impossible

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #3927 on: August 02, 2018, 10:17:55 AM »
In my opinion one of the advantages of the internet is that measures which stop the reporting of misconduct by those with the resources to pay for them is that they are difficult to enforce on the internet.

  ... and what good is that as far as justice being served goes?  Who appears to be paying for the fake news with the apparent intention of manipulating and influencing we plebs but the super rich who can afford it or the ideologically committed who use the internet to proselytise and quite often corrupt?

The internet could have been a very different place had the original ideals taken root ... but humankind being imperfect in so many ways it is my opinion those imperfections have enjoyed unfettered release ... for example you may not aspire to download and follow instructions to 'print out' an untraceable handgun, but there are those who do.

In my opinion we have allowed children free access to the sweetie shop of the internet without guidance or let or hindrance.  It is something we are just going to have to educate ourselves ... and those by now grossly fat and diabetic children ... in the cause and effect. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #3928 on: August 02, 2018, 10:42:58 AM »
  ... and what good is that as far as justice being served goes?  Who appears to be paying for the fake news with the apparent intention of manipulating and influencing we plebs but the super rich who can afford it or the ideologically committed who use the internet to proselytise and quite often corrupt?

The internet could have been a very different place had the original ideals taken root ... but humankind being imperfect in so many ways it is my opinion those imperfections have enjoyed unfettered release ... for example you may not aspire to download and follow instructions to 'print out' an untraceable handgun, but there are those who do.

In my opinion we have allowed children free access to the sweetie shop of the internet without guidance or let or hindrance.  It is something we are just going to have to educate ourselves ... and those by now grossly fat and diabetic children ... in the cause and effect.

The world could be a very different place, but it isn't. Some of those with power or money will always use any means at their disposal to hang onto their privileges. Their feet of clay are often revealed by the media, but if the media are gagged the internet is another route which can be used to inform.

The internet can't be blamed for the way people use it, any more than food producers can be blamed for people overeating.
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Offline Erngath

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« Reply #3929 on: August 02, 2018, 10:55:46 AM »
The world could be a very different place, but it isn't. Some of those with power or money will always use any means at their disposal to hang onto their privileges. Their feet of clay are often revealed by the media, but if the media are gagged the internet is another route which can be used to inform.

The internet can't be blamed for the way people use it, any more than food producers can be blamed for people overeating.


I don't believe Brietta is blaming the internet but indeed she is blaming some of humankind and their misuse of it.
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