Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

Most research is funded by those with a vested interest in the subject and the outcome. They are likely to fund researchers who share their outlook, rather than those with opposing views.

Perhaps you could explain which research Grime is involved in, who is funding it, how his 'vested interest'  might affect his behaviour and the outcome? Otherwise you're just casting unfounded aspersions in my opinion.

You are asking for cites for something I never actually said.

[Robittybob1]

You are asking for cites for something I never actually said.

It certainly wasn't a demand for a cite.  Don't panic.

[slartibartfast]

IMO it would be akin to a tobacco company conducting research into the link between smoking and cancer.  I would prefer such research to be carried out be those with no vested interest in the outcome.

If the dogs aren’t useful no one will use them no matter what the scientific research said.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If the dogs aren’t useful no one will use them no matter what the scientific research said.

The dogs are useful, they frequently find bodies or people buried in rubble, who disputes that?  When they find "nothing" but still alert, then that is where it becomes trickier....

[Vertigo Swirl]

It certainly wasn't a demand for a cite.  Don't panic.

OK, it was a demand for an explanation for something I never said.  Better?

[G-Unit]

The dogs are useful, they frequently find bodies or people buried in rubble, who disputes that?  When they find "nothing" but still alert, then that is where it becomes trickier....

It can still be useful if corroborating evidence can be gathered, as in the Gilroy case.

[barrier]

The dogs are useful, they frequently find bodies or people buried in rubble, who disputes that?  When they find "nothing" but still alert, then that is where it becomes trickier....

In the McCann case who does it become more trickier for?

[Mr Gray]

If the dogs aren’t useful no one will use them no matter what the scientific research said.

Dogs are useful in finding evidence... That's why they are widely used... They are basically untestable scientifically... Because according to grime they are better than science... If keela alerted to blood and nothing was found... Grime would simply claim the residue was too small for scientists to detect

If Eddie alerted in the boot of my car... I can guarantee no cadavers have ever been carried... But grime could claim some sort of contamination at some point..

[Robittybob1]

Dogs are useful in finding evidence... That's why they are widely used... They are basically untestable scientifically... Because according to grime they are better than science... If keela alerted to blood and nothing was found... Grime would simply claim the residue was too small for scientists to detect

If Eddie alerted in the boot of my car... I can guarantee no cadavers have ever been carried... But grime could claim some sort of contamination at some point..

Has no one else, other than you driven your car?

[Vertigo Swirl]

In the McCann case who does it become more trickier for?

For everyone because no one can say for certain what the dog alerts mean, or what they were alerting to.  No body was found, no meaningful forensics were found, so....

[barrier]

For everyone because no one can say for certain what the dog alerts mean, or what they were alerting to.  No body was found, no meaningful forensics were found, so....

A reasoned reply.

[Robittybob1]

For everyone because no one can say for certain what the dog alerts mean, or what they were alerting to.  No body was found, no meaningful forensics were found, so....

Exactly but in the Gilroy case circumstantial evidence was used rather that evidence of that calibre.

[faithlilly]

For everyone because no one can say for certain what the dog alerts mean, or what they were alerting to.  No body was found, no meaningful forensics were found, so....

Don’t you think the fact the Eddie reacted to items connected to the McCanns and only the McCanns, although not definitive evidence, inferences can be drawn from that fact ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Don’t you think the fact the Eddie reacted to items connected to the McCanns and only the McCanns, although not definitive evidence, inferences can be drawn from that fact ?

Many inferences can be drawn from it - which one is correct though?

[barrier]

Yes, of course but as there are other inferences that can be drawn too, what worth are the dog alerts at the end of the day?

The day hasn't ended yet though as it?