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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4395 on: September 16, 2018, 07:20:44 PM »
Nearly half of websleuths polled had the parents or family member involved

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/what-happened-to-isabel-celis.173262/
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4396 on: September 16, 2018, 07:24:49 PM »
An interesting article from last year, before this development:

"Was Isabel abducted from her window in the night?  Was she taken while her unknowing family members slept in the next room?  Does Isabel’s father’s bizarrely calm demeanor on the 911 call indicate that he may be culpable?  Or, did authorities fixate on her parents and develop tunnel vision early on in the investigation?

How can a child vanish entirely with little to no evidence left behind?  And, most importantly, where is Isabel Celis?"

Yes, there was no evidence of the child having been taken from her bedroom via the window, and yes at least one parent was suspected because of his demeanour.

More criticism for the father here based on his apparently calm attitude and use of the word "abducted"
https://thestir.cafemom.com/politics_views/137622/911_calls_from_isabel_celis

Say no more.


https://truenoirstories.wordpress.com/2017/02/12/isabel-celis/

There isn't much from the McCann sceptic lexicon that is missing from that, is there?  Reading it makes me feel very sad indeed.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4397 on: September 18, 2018, 10:11:59 PM »
No relation to MBM so why her name gets a headline is disrespectful to Isabel. THE comments are interesting on that page...

No evidence of abduction of MBM.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4398 on: September 18, 2018, 10:33:13 PM »
No relation to MBM so why her name gets a headline is disrespectful to Isabel. THE comments are interesting on that page...

No evidence of abduction of MBM.
if it has to be alleged abductor it also has to be "alleged abduction".
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4399 on: September 18, 2018, 10:35:55 PM »
if it has to be alleged abductor it also has to be "alleged abduction".

Rob, English is quite a flexible language. No evidence of abduction is expressing uncertainty over abduction the same as alleged or IMO.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4400 on: September 18, 2018, 10:50:52 PM »
No relation to MBM so why her name gets a headline is disrespectful to Isabel. THE comments are interesting on that page...

No evidence of abduction of MBM.
Until the suspect showed the police where Isabel’s body was hidden there was no evidence that Isabel had been abducted apart from a missing child, a forced window screen and her parents insistence that she was abducted.  Apart from that, no relevance to Madeleine’s case whatsoever.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4401 on: September 19, 2018, 07:07:29 PM »
One for davel and his faith in british justice,incidently I believe it was 40 yrs today Carl Bridgewater was murdered.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1381563/Latest-victim-of-miscarriages-of-justice.html
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4402 on: September 19, 2018, 07:14:34 PM »
One for davel and his faith in british justice,incidently I believe it was 40 yrs today Carl Bridgewater was murdered.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1381563/Latest-victim-of-miscarriages-of-justice.html

you think thats bad.....montclair posted there are no examples of misscarriages of justice in portugal....perhaps they  just dont admit to them....I have a lot of faith in British justice...nothing is perfect

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4403 on: September 20, 2018, 09:13:47 PM »
This is a particularly heartless and tasteless post IMO.  Who has EVER suggested that it’s always sweetness and light following a child abduction?


You missed that whole she could have been abducted by a loving caring childless couple? Having the time of her life  and she came to no harm.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4404 on: September 20, 2018, 09:17:13 PM »

You missed that whole she could have been abducted by a loving caring childless couple? Having the time of her life  and she came to no harm.

Possibly what the family of an abducted child wish would be so.
And try to keep that thought, rather than think of the worst.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4405 on: September 20, 2018, 09:19:58 PM »
Possibly what the family of an abducted child wish would be so.
And try to keep that thought, rather than think of the worst.

An unwillingness to face up to reality. Is this another aspect of Gerry's mental state.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4406 on: September 20, 2018, 09:23:25 PM »
Possibly what the family of an abducted child wish would be so.
And try to keep that thought, rather than think of the worst.

Or try to make out she is happy, and came to no harm- as once they were found out to be eating and drinking every night leaving their children alone to fend for themselves, the public  were not quite so 'supportive'

I mean one minute they are screaming she is abducted by a gang of paedophiles the next she came to no harm?  yeah O.K.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4407 on: September 20, 2018, 09:26:17 PM »
An unwillingness to face up to reality. Is this another aspect of Gerry's mental state.

They have moved on, years ago, they said as much in one of their interviews. Is there really any evidence of Gerrys depression? or are we just getting his own 'story'.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4408 on: September 20, 2018, 09:37:37 PM »
Between Gerry's depression and Kate sticking pins into an Amaral hate doll, it must be a bundle of fun at chez McCann.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4409 on: September 20, 2018, 10:05:52 PM »
Between Gerry's depression and Kate sticking pins into an Amaral hate doll, it must be a bundle of fun at chez McCann.
Why would you expect there to be a bundle of fun at the McCanns?

I knew it wouldn’t be long before Gerry’s depression became a source of mirth for the sceptics.   
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".