Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

It's surprising what the police find suspicious. Apparently everyone looks up if a helicopter hovers above them. In the April Jones case Mark Bridger didn't. He ignored it when walking his dog.
Rinder, ITV, now.

[John]

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[Carana]

It's surprising what the police find suspicious. Apparently everyone looks up if a helicopter hovers above them. In the April Jones case Mark Bridger didn't. He ignored it when walking his dog.
Rinder, ITV, now.

Missed your post. Yes, interesting. I can think of one personal (emergency medical) situation in which lots of people gathered to watch an unusual rescue, but I'd been informed beforehand and simply had no time to watch as a spectator.

Since then, I've heard helicopters and / or other loud emergency vehicles passing really near me, any yes, I looked up as they appear quite suddenly for no reason rhat I'd been expecting.

[G-Unit]

Missed your post. Yes, interesting. I can think of one personal (emergency medical) situation in which lots of people gathered to watch an unusual rescue, but I'd been informed beforehand and simply had no time to watch as a spectator.

Since then, I've heard helicopters and / or other loud emergency vehicles passing really near me, any yes, I looked up as they appear quite suddenly for no reason rhat I'd been expecting.

I always look too, but it never occurred to me that it could be seen as suspicious if I didn't lol. Where we used to live we were a couple of fields away from an estate with a bad reputation. When being chased by the police the estate's inhabitants had a habit of running into the fields to escape. The police helicopter became a regular feature in our lives. They have a spotlight which they shine down to find people in the darkness. I used to watch from our windows as they 'grid' searched the fields.

[misty]

https://portugalresident.com/psp-agents-in-court-for-%E2%80%9Cleaving-child-in-locked-vehicle%E2%80%9D

Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 24, 2018


Two PSP agents are in court this week facing the charge of abuse of power over the way they dealt with an incident involving an angry father.

The bottom line was that as the agents marched the father off the local station after arresting him for “protesting” about a parking fine, they left his three-year-old daughter shut inside the family car for half an hour.

Say reports, this is despite the father having made appeals to take his child with him as he was taken into custody.

The incident happened on October 15 in Custoias, Matosinhos, writes Correio da Manhã.

Pedro Sousa, 51, had ‘double-parked’, waiting to collect his wife when he was approached by police who reportedly fined him on the spot.

“After being fined, he protested and was taken to the station without being allowed to take his child with him, in spite of appeals”, says the paper.
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Words fail......

[Brietta]

https://portugalresident.com/psp-agents-in-court-for-%E2%80%9Cleaving-child-in-locked-vehicle%E2%80%9D

Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 24, 2018


Two PSP agents are in court this week facing the charge of abuse of power over the way they dealt with an incident involving an angry father.

The bottom line was that as the agents marched the father off the local station after arresting him for “protesting” about a parking fine, they left his three-year-old daughter shut inside the family car for half an hour.

Say reports, this is despite the father having made appeals to take his child with him as he was taken into custody.

The incident happened on October 15 in Custoias, Matosinhos, writes Correio da Manhã.

Pedro Sousa, 51, had ‘double-parked’, waiting to collect his wife when he was approached by police who reportedly fined him on the spot.

“After being fined, he protested and was taken to the station without being allowed to take his child with him, in spite of appeals”, says the paper.
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Words fail......

It will be interesting to see what sort of penalty is handed down by the court.

[sadie]

https://portugalresident.com/psp-agents-in-court-for-%E2%80%9Cleaving-child-in-locked-vehicle%E2%80%9D

Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 24, 2018


Two PSP agents are in court this week facing the charge of abuse of power over the way they dealt with an incident involving an angry father.

The bottom line was that as the agents marched the father off the local station after arresting him for “protesting” about a parking fine, they left his three-year-old daughter shut inside the family car for half an hour.

Say reports, this is despite the father having made appeals to take his child with him as he was taken into custody.

The incident happened on October 15 in Custoias, Matosinhos, writes Correio da Manhã.

Pedro Sousa, 51, had ‘double-parked’, waiting to collect his wife when he was approached by police who reportedly fined him on the spot.

“After being fined, he protested and was taken to the station without being allowed to take his child with him, in spite of appeals”, says the paper.
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Words fail......

Poor kid must have been frantic and her Dad too.

I hope that it wasn't a hot day shut in a car!

[slartibartfast]

Poor kid must have been frantic and her Dad too.

I hope that it wasn't a hot day shut in a car!

Double parked, waiting to collect the mother. No mention of if a policeman left with the car or how long the mother took to arrive.

I’m sure the Portuguese press are doing some police bashing but then some use it for PT bashing.

[Brietta]

Double parked, waiting to collect the mother. No mention of if a policeman left with the car or how long the mother took to arrive.

I’m sure the Portuguese press are doing some police bashing but then some use it for PT bashing.

Maybe natasha.donn@algarveresident.com could clarify the situation for you?

[Brietta]

Poor kid must have been frantic and her Dad too.

I hope that it wasn't a hot day shut in a car!

According to Jornal de Noticas the car had been moved ... "Multado por esperar em segunda fila, o condutor tirou o carro, mas protestou e até disse que ia falar com o comandante." ... wonder if the mother would have been able to see it when she came out of the shop?
I think the town was busy because of a fair.  https://www.jn.pt/justica/interior/agentes-da-psp-deixaram-crianca-sozinha-no-carro-10071711.html?target=conteudo_fechado


I think the charge should have included "stupidity" as well as abuse of power.. 

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The police are accused of abuse of power and the driver is being tried for resistance and coercion.

One of the policemen said he had been ordered detained for being pulled by the driver, and another officer corroborated the allegation and said he had to go and help his colleague immobilize the man, who denies this version.

The driver says that he turned to go to the car to get the documents and that he was seized by the arm and arrested, further alleges that the two agents were indifferent to their requests not to leave their daughter, who continued to sleep in the back, alone in the car. The police say the father never spoke of the child.

A man and a woman who witnessed the scene were also heard in court and both said they heard their father yell repeatedly that he had his daughter in the car, asking them to let her take her because she could not be alone.

The couple also said that he was next to the car to ensure the child's welfare, following the police's indifference to their father's appeals.
https://sol.sapo.pt/artigo/631256/agentes-da-psp-deixam-crianca-sozinha-dentro-do-carro-apos-pai-ser-detido

[Miss Taken Identity]

If this is PJ bashing  for the sake of it to show that the McCanns were treated badly then I would like to introduce to you...Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes- on a train...

[Vertigo Swirl]

If this is PJ bashing  for the sake of it to show that the McCanns were treated badly then I would like to introduce to you...Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes- on a train...

How pathetic.  If you want to start a thread bashing British police (and god knows some of them deserve it) then why not do so?  I will gladly join in.  No police force anywhere in the world should be exempt from valid criticism.

[G-Unit]

How pathetic.  If you want to start a thread bashing British police (and god knows some of them deserve it) then why not do so?  I will gladly join in.  No police force anywhere in the world should be exempt from valid criticism.

We all know there's no such thing as a perfect police force, but some people do seem determined to highlight any inadequacies in Portugal's policing at every available opportunity. Perhaps it's time to stop doing that.

[Miss Taken Identity]

How pathetic.  If you want to start a thread bashing British police (and god knows some of them deserve it) then why not do so?  I will gladly join in.  No police force anywhere in the world should be exempt from valid criticism.

It is pathetic. a man double parking has got nothing to do with this thread or this forum.  SO maybe all snidey remarks about the Portugese police  should be removed.

 Because if some supporters  insist, and some are mods, insist on PJ bashing at all or any costs then I feel so obliged to 'bring it on home'.

Also I am getting rather bored with mods deleting and amending my posts because they 'don't like  what i type' and their irrelevent posts get to stay even if they take it off topic.

[barrier]

If this is PJ bashing  for the sake of it to show that the McCanns were treated badly then I would like to introduce to you...Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes- on a train...

Then the woman in charge is made Commissioner of the MET,couldn't make it up,oh wait...………….