Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

Very interesting indeed, but what relevance do you see that I don’t to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?

The same people investigated both cases, just like the Cipriano and McCann cases. The Cipriano case is alleged by some to have been a miscarriage of justice. The conviction of Barry George was overturned.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The same people investigated both cases, just like the Cipriano and McCann cases. The Cipriano case is alleged by some to have been a miscarriage of justice. The conviction of Barry George was overturned.

Tenuous.  There were no charges or convictions brought in the Madeleine case while Andy Redwood was in charge, and he hasn’t been in charge for years.  So what exactly is the point?

[pathfinder73]

They want me in a Zodiac Killer documentary but not bothered.

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My name's @@@@ and I'm a documentary filmmaker from the UK. I'm
currently working on a film about the legacy of the Zodiac case, and I was
hoping you might be willing to speak to me about Rick Marshall.

The film is funded by Field of Vision and exec produced by Oscar-winner
Laura Poitras.

The film will present the stories of a number of key suspects in the Zodiac
case. I'm keen to include all the most credible theories and have spent the
last six months reading everything I can get my hands on. Your posts from
the forum about Rick Marshall are the most concise, persuasive account I've
read of his ties to the case, and I'd love to interview you for the film if
possible.

The interview would be audio-only, so it would just involve me and a sound
recordist travelling out to you. Questions would be strictly about the case
and your suspect, and you could be credited as "pathfinder" or "anonymous"
if you wanted to be, or under your real name.

It'd be great to hear from you either way. Let me know if you have any
questions about the project, or want to hop on the phone at some point to
discuss it.

[ShiningInLuz]

They want me in a Zodiac Killer documentary but not bothered.

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Hello,

My name's @@@@ and I'm a documentary filmmaker from the UK. I'm
currently working on a film about the legacy of the Zodiac case, and I was
hoping you might be willing to speak to me about Rick Marshall.

The film is funded by Field of Vision and exec produced by Oscar-winner
Laura Poitras.

The film will present the stories of a number of key suspects in the Zodiac
case. I'm keen to include all the most credible theories and have spent the
last six months reading everything I can get my hands on. Your posts from
the forum about Rick Marshall are the most concise, persuasive account I've
read of his ties to the case, and I'd love to interview you for the film if
possible.

The interview would be audio-only, so it would just involve me and a sound
recordist travelling out to you. Questions would be strictly about the case
and your suspect, and you could be credited as "pathfinder" or "anonymous"
if you wanted to be, or under your real name.

It'd be great to hear from you either way. Let me know if you have any
questions about the project, or want to hop on the phone at some point to
discuss it.

My advice to is to participate, and here's why.

I scrupulously rejected media advances until I realised that either I 'controlled' the media, or the media would cover 'my' agenda as they wished.

As most media have a surprisingly poor understanding of the MBM case, I found that I had to go back to basics.  I sat with a team from AFP having a drink outside Kelly's, and to my astonishment they had no idea why Kelly's was important. 

I you have expertise in the Zodiac case, seriously consider spreading some of it to a wider public.  The venture will go out with your expertise, or without.

Of course, the decision is entirely yours. 

[misty]

They want me in a Zodiac Killer documentary but not bothered.

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Hello,

My name's @@@@ and I'm a documentary filmmaker from the UK. I'm
currently working on a film about the legacy of the Zodiac case, and I was
hoping you might be willing to speak to me about Rick Marshall.

The film is funded by Field of Vision and exec produced by Oscar-winner
Laura Poitras.

The film will present the stories of a number of key suspects in the Zodiac
case. I'm keen to include all the most credible theories and have spent the
last six months reading everything I can get my hands on. Your posts from
the forum about Rick Marshall are the most concise, persuasive account I've
read of his ties to the case, and I'd love to interview you for the film if
possible.

The interview would be audio-only, so it would just involve me and a sound
recordist travelling out to you. Questions would be strictly about the case
and your suspect, and you could be credited as "pathfinder" or "anonymous"
if you wanted to be, or under your real name.

It'd be great to hear from you either way. Let me know if you have any
questions about the project, or want to hop on the phone at some point to
discuss it.

Without knowing very much about the case, I don't think you have anything to lose by contributing your opinion. Marshall certainly resembles some efits. However, from the little I have read, I do not think all the deaths attributed to the Zodiac killer were committed by the same person. Presumably the  latest DNA testing on the underside of the stamps produced no positive conclusions.
Why did the killings stop around 1970?

[pathfinder73]

Rick Marshall is not his real name. His walk was unique and it gave him away - those cops had him then let him go re Stine murder but what they described was very important when I was doing background checks on him. There's a lot more that I've posted on that forum  - his basement in SF etc. I've looked at the Zodiac case but not much as this one! Actually I've not posted a great deal on that forum but I do move quickly in these unsolved cases.

[G-Unit]

Where were the nannies and children in this clip? It looks a bit like the Tapas entrance except for the staircase in the foreground.
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/exterior-shots-of-the-ocean-club-apartments-after-the-news-footage/649701658

[Robittybob1]

Where were the nannies and children in this clip? It looks a bit like the Tapas entrance except for the staircase in the foreground.
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/exterior-shots-of-the-ocean-club-apartments-after-the-news-footage/649701658

Are we looking at the entrance from the inside  rather than the more usual looking from the outside in?

[G-Unit]

Are we looking at the entrance from the inside  rather than the more usual looking from the outside in?

I thiught so until I zoomed out and noticed the staircase on the right in the foreground. I don't think there were stairs inside the inner door.

[Robittybob1]

I thought so until I zoomed out and noticed the staircase on the right in the foreground. I don't think there were stairs inside the inner door.

I getting confused with all the references to inner and exterior.   The reception was a building with two doors.  One on to the footpath and the other to the pool side.   There appears to be 3 options on the inside (poolside).
1. Turn to the left
2. Go down some steps
3. Go up some steps.

[G-Unit]

I getting confused with all the references to inner and exterior.   The reception was a building with two doors.  One on to the footpath and the other to the pool side.   There appears to be 3 options on the inside (poolside).
1. Turn to the left
2. Go down some steps
3. Go up some steps.

It looks to me more like the main reception but it was allegedly filmed on 4th May and the McCann twins are there. We have been told that all the cildren went to the tented building at the Tapas complex on 4th.

[misty]

Steps from Tapas Reception leading to pool area

[Wonderfulspam]

'DOWNRIGHT LIES' Madeleine McCann conspiracy theorists paying £172 for copies of memoir written by disgraced Portuguese cop Amaral as greedy book sellers cash in

The discredited book Truth of the Lie was written by disgraced former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral, who led the bungled probe into Maddie's 2007 disappearance.


GREEDY book sellers are cashing in on the suffering of Gerry and Kate McCann by charging as much as £172 for a book the couple has branded "downright lies".

The Truth of the Lie was written by former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral, who led the bungled probe into Maddie's 2007 disappearance.



It has been listed for sale online - with asking prices reaching as high as £172
The controversial title was banned and Gerry and Kate were awarded around £375,000 in libel damages in 2015.

Amaral claims three-year-old Maddie died in the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz and her parents Gerry and Kate faked her abduction to cover up the tragedy.

There has been a surge of interest in the book after he featured on a new Netflix documentary about Maddie.

Paperback copies translated into English have surfaced online, after it was only previously available in Portuguese, to cope with demand.

DZK Books EU in Buenos Aires is selling the book for £172 on Amazon with free delivery.

Paper Cavalier UK in London has the book priced at £146.99, with £2.80 postage.

One seller, from Blackburn, Lancs, who has copies for £9.99 on eBay, said: "It’s a tough one, isn’t it? I feel so sorry for the child. I dread to think what actually happened to her."

The book became a best-seller in Portugal when it was first published in 2008, selling more than 200,000 copies.

'GROSSLY DEFAMATORY'

It was banned for several years after the McCanns launched a legal action against Amaral in 2009, claiming the book was "unfounded and grossly defamatory".

In 2015, Kate and Gerry were awarded around £357,000 in libel damages by a Portuguese court. A judge also banned further sales of Amaral's book.

However, in April 2016, Amaral won an appeal against the decision, meaning he could sue them for damages potentially in the tens of thousands.

The McCann's lost a subsequent appeal in Portugal's Supreme Court in February 2017.

Top judges also ruled that Maddie's parents had not been ruled innocent with regard to their daughter's disappearance.

The McCanns, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have appealed to the European Court of Human Rights in a bid to silence Amaral.

The spotlight has been thrown back on the case by a new eight-part documentary called The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann on Netflix. The McCanns, both 51, refused to take part.

The Sun on Sunday revealed last week how the McCanns were hit with £29,500 in legal fees for Amaral, after losing their libel case.

By Corey Charlton
28th March 2019, 9:30 pmUpdated: 29th March 2019, 7:42 am

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8738452/madeleine-mccann-portuguese-cop-amaral-memoir/

[misty]

Aerial view of steps.
Bit of a nuisance having to crop all SS now due to 300kb size restriction.

[G-Unit]

Steps from Tapas Reception leading to pool area

Thanks Misty. Where are they coming from and going to?