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Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9300 on: January 04, 2021, 12:37:08 PM »
Absolutely. People making value judgements and passing them off as ‘concerns’.

Imagine if the police hadn’t had to waste time following up these tales....Madeleine’s whereabouts may actually have been discovered.

Ok,  so the Police shouldn't be concerned that there could have been a Paedophile ring then?

Offline jassi

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« Reply #9301 on: January 04, 2021, 12:48:30 PM »
Supposing police received, say 20, different reports from concerned individuals, which should they investigate given that it all takes time & manpower ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #9302 on: January 04, 2021, 12:53:21 PM »
Supposing police received, say 20, different reports from concerned individuals, which should they investigate given that it all takes time & manpower ?


I would have thought this report would have had priority as a child had disappeared in the same area.  Why were there video camera's set up?

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #9303 on: January 04, 2021, 01:01:06 PM »
Supposing police received, say 20, different reports from concerned individuals, which should they investigate given that it all takes time & manpower ?

My interpretation of your question is that you appear to suggest that all should be investigated.

That's nice.

In my opinion any will suffice if the incident to which you refer is the same one.

If there are twenty different reports I think using a triage type system might be beneficial.  Like you ~ I think they should hit on them all at one time or another.

This does not appear to be the experience of witnesses who gave statements to the Policia Judiciaria and heard no more about it.
For example Mrs M and Dr T.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9304 on: January 04, 2021, 01:35:07 PM »
Supposing police received, say 20, different reports from concerned individuals, which should they investigate given that it all takes time & manpower ?
They should investigate ALL reports of strange or suspicious activity in the immediate vicinity and immediate aftermath of the incident, that's what police investigations should do, not file witness reports in a pile of post-it notes and get round to following them up half-heartedly two months later.  Or do you disagree?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

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« Reply #9305 on: January 04, 2021, 01:43:24 PM »
My interpretation of your question is that you appear to suggest that all should be investigated.

That's nice.

In my opinion any will suffice if the incident to which you refer is the same one.

If there are twenty different reports I think using a triage type system might be beneficial.  Like you ~ I think they should hit on them all at one time or another.

This does not appear to be the experience of witnesses who gave statements to the Policia Judiciaria and heard no more about it.
For example Mrs M and Dr T.

All down to evaluation of priority, isn't it.
 Unless we have the police report, we cannot evaluate priority
IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #9306 on: January 04, 2021, 02:50:57 PM »

I would have thought this report would have had priority as a child had disappeared in the same area.  Why were there video camera's set up?

The story about video cameras seems to have come from Paul Luckman, who heard it from 'a searcher' who 'somehow got inside'. It's a luxury villa and it seems to me very unlikely that anyone would be able to get inside it, even if it was unoccupied.

https://www.luzholidays.com/property/casa-ao-pescareza/

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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #9307 on: January 04, 2021, 03:25:29 PM »
The story about video cameras seems to have come from Paul Luckman, who heard it from 'a searcher' who 'somehow got inside'. It's a luxury villa and it seems to me very unlikely that anyone would be able to get inside it, even if it was unoccupied.

https://www.luzholidays.com/property/casa-ao-pescareza/

Brueckner seems to have managed.

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #9308 on: January 04, 2021, 05:33:27 PM »
Ok,  so the Police shouldn't be concerned that there could have been a Paedophile ring then?

What was there to suggest that?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #9309 on: January 04, 2021, 05:43:09 PM »
The story about video cameras seems to have come from Paul Luckman, who heard it from 'a searcher' who 'somehow got inside'. It's a luxury villa and it seems to me very unlikely that anyone would be able to get inside it, even if it was unoccupied.

https://www.luzholidays.com/property/casa-ao-pescareza/

According to Luckman ~ his companion was accompanied by a dog.  Police would have had right of entry to inspect the described photographs of children pinned to the wall'

Was Luckman's companion a police officer? or was s/he just another dog walker like Mrs M and her retired police friend?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #9310 on: January 04, 2021, 06:44:01 PM »
According to Luckman ~ his companion was accompanied by a dog.  Police would have had right of entry to inspect the described photographs of children pinned to the wall'

Was Luckman's companion a police officer? or was s/he just another dog walker like Mrs M and her retired police friend?

Police would have needed a warrant or the owner's permission to enter a property.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #9311 on: January 04, 2021, 07:40:55 PM »
Police would have needed a warrant or the owner's permission to enter a property.

Bearing in mind the internet files are not complete and we have seen pictures of them clambering into properties via windows ~ how do you know the police didn't request warrants?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #9312 on: January 04, 2021, 09:27:40 PM »
Bearing in mind the internet files are not complete and we have seen pictures of them clambering into properties via windows ~ how do you know the police didn't request warrants?

Certain things were kept out of the files, but not applications for search warrants.
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Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #9314 on: January 08, 2021, 03:19:10 PM »