Wandering Off Topic

[jassi]

Never mind all the cant, quite nice to look at Full stop.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Despite the McCanns pleas, it is said that the UK authorities had absolutely no intention of getting involved until Rebekah Brooks/The Sun persuaded appealed to the Prime Minister.

For the second time of asking: it is said by whom, and please provide the cite thanks.

[G-Unit]

It is said the earth is flat and a mere 6000 years old... Lol

Is that relevant? The McCanns petitioned three Home Secretary's; Jacqui Smith, Alan Johnson and Theresa May to no avail. So in November 2010 they;

"started a petition to lobby the two governments to conduct an independent review. We are at a loss to understand why such a commonly used procedure isn’t an obvious option and why our request for such a review has gone unanswered. " [madeleine page 384]

Rebekah Brooks became involved and persuaded the Government to act, according to her. Others suggested she threatened rather than persuaded.

"QC Robert Jay claimed Mrs Brooks threatened to put Home Secretary Theresa May on the front page of The Sun every day until she ordered a new inquiry into the missing child."
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rebekah-brooks-accused-of-bullying-government-over-mccanns-7737611.html

It seems that the McCanns pleas alone were not enough.

[Mr Gray]

Is that relevant? The McCanns petitioned three Home Secretary's; Jacqui Smith, Alan Johnson and Theresa May to no avail. So in November 2010 they;

"started a petition to lobby the two governments to conduct an independent review. We are at a loss to understand why such a commonly used procedure isn’t an obvious option and why our request for such a review has gone unanswered. " [madeleine page 384]

Rebekah Brooks became involved and persuaded the Government to act, according to her. Others suggested she threatened rather than persuaded.

"QC Robert Jay claimed Mrs Brooks threatened to put Home Secretary Theresa May on the front page of The Sun every day until she ordered a new inquiry into the missing child."
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rebekah-brooks-accused-of-bullying-government-over-mccanns-7737611.html

It seems that the McCanns pleas alone were not enough.

Who really cares . I think it's patently clear the McCanns pushed to keep the investigation going... In fact it was their appeal on German TV that led to CB being the prime suspect

[barrier]

Who really cares . I think it's patently clear the McCanns pushed to keep the investigation going... In fact it was their appeal on German TV that led to CB being the prime suspect

Some one thought they were going to make a buck or two, it'll peter out, getting on toward 11 months the concrete is going soft not harder.

[barrier]

It is said the earth is flat and a mere 6000 years old... Lol

There's a lot of faith based on the imaginary, so who knows.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Is that relevant? The McCanns petitioned three Home Secretary's; Jacqui Smith, Alan Johnson and Theresa May to no avail. So in November 2010 they;

"started a petition to lobby the two governments to conduct an independent review. We are at a loss to understand why such a commonly used procedure isn’t an obvious option and why our request for such a review has gone unanswered. " [madeleine page 384]

Rebekah Brooks became involved and persuaded the Government to act, according to her. Others suggested she threatened rather than persuaded.

"QC Robert Jay claimed Mrs Brooks threatened to put Home Secretary Theresa May on the front page of The Sun every day until she ordered a new inquiry into the missing child."
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rebekah-brooks-accused-of-bullying-government-over-mccanns-7737611.html

It seems that the McCanns pleas alone were not enough.

Thank you, so now you might like to give some thought as to why the McCanns were so desperate for a case review that they petitioned three home secretaries to re-open an investigation into the crimes you seem to think they themselves may have committed.

[Brietta]

Is that relevant? The McCanns petitioned three Home Secretary's; Jacqui Smith, Alan Johnson and Theresa May to no avail. So in November 2010 they;

"started a petition to lobby the two governments to conduct an independent review. We are at a loss to understand why such a commonly used procedure isn’t an obvious option and why our request for such a review has gone unanswered. " [madeleine page 384]

Rebekah Brooks became involved and persuaded the Government to act, according to her. Others suggested she threatened rather than persuaded.

"QC Robert Jay claimed Mrs Brooks threatened to put Home Secretary Theresa May on the front page of The Sun every day until she ordered a new inquiry into the missing child."
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rebekah-brooks-accused-of-bullying-government-over-mccanns-7737611.html

It seems that the McCanns pleas alone were not enough.

You never really get it quite right do you.

Snip
Former Home Secretary Alan Johnson commissioned a scoping exercise by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) centre to look at the feasibility of carrying out a review of the case.

This was completed in March 2010
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13378289

As we know Johnson was unable to take things any further as a result the 2010 general election, Thursday 6 May 2010.

Kate and Gerry wrote an open letter which was published in May 2011 asking David Cameron to launch an independent review of all information relating to Madeleine's disappearance.


Snip
Mr Cameron's spokeswoman said: "The prime minister met Kate and Gerry McCann while he was leader of the opposition, and he has followed their plight very closely.

"He and the home secretary want to make sure the government does all it can to help them".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13370591

The McCanns never gave up on Madeleine nor did they ever give up on lobbying for her case to be properly investigated.

[Brietta]

Who really cares . I think it's patently clear the McCanns pushed to keep the investigation going... In fact it was their appeal on German TV that led to CB being the prime suspect

The content of the open letter was prescient on that ...

Snip
They wrote that "the benefits of pooling together different bits of evidence can be enormous".

"One call might be all that is needed to lead to Madeleine and her abductor," they said.

"To this end we are seeking a joint independent, transparent and comprehensive review of all information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance.

"Thus far there has been no formal review of the material held by the police authorities."

They added: "It is fundamental for any major incident that a case review is undertaken to identify all the avenues that could be explored that might lead to new information coming into the inquiry."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13370591

And that one call came as a result of their appearance on German Television ten years after Madeleine's disappearance.

[Vertigo Swirl]

One would have to admit that the parents’ determination to have the circumstances surrounding the crimes they have supposedly committed themselves is really quite unprecedented.  How on earth do sceptics explain this to themselves?

[G-Unit]

Thank you, so now you might like to give some thought as to why the McCanns were so desperate for a case review that they petitioned three home secretaries to re-open an investigation into the crimes you seem to think they themselves may have committed.

Case reviews often examine how an investigation was handled in order to identify mistakes made by investigators. As Kate McCann refers to 'deficiencies in the investigation' I assume she wanted those deficiencies officially highlighted. That never happened, of course, as no findings were ever publicised.

[G-Unit]

You never really get it quite right do you.

Snip
Former Home Secretary Alan Johnson commissioned a scoping exercise by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) centre to look at the feasibility of carrying out a review of the case.

This was completed in March 2010
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13378289

As we know Johnson was unable to take things any further as a result the 2010 general election, Thursday 6 May 2010.

Kate and Gerry wrote an open letter which was published in May 2011 asking David Cameron to launch an independent review of all information relating to Madeleine's disappearance.


Snip
Mr Cameron's spokeswoman said: "The prime minister met Kate and Gerry McCann while he was leader of the opposition, and he has followed their plight very closely.

"He and the home secretary want to make sure the government does all it can to help them".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13370591

The McCanns never gave up on Madeleine nor did they ever give up on lobbying for her case to be properly investigated.

You always insist that the McCanns lobbyed for an investigation, but imo that wasn't what they wanted the authorities to do, they wanted a review. They are not the same thing.

[Mr Gray]

You always insist that the McCanns lobbyed for an investigation, but imo that wasn't what they wanted the authorities to do, they wanted a review. They are not the same thing.

Are you seriously suggesting the McCanns did not want the investigation re-opened.. I find your post delusional

[jassi]

Case reviews often examine how an investigation was handled in order to identify mistakes made by investigators. As Kate McCann refers to 'deficiencies in the investigation' I assume she wanted those deficiencies officially highlighted. That never happened, of course, as no findings were ever publicised.

There was a review of the performance of the British police, mainly Leicester & CEOP in the early days, before they withdrew their services, though I forget what they called it. Quite damning as I recall.

[barrier]

There was a review of the performance of the British police, mainly Leicester & CEOP in the early days, before they withdrew their services, though I forget what they called it. Quite damning as I recall.

Operation Task.

https://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/Strategic-debrief-operation-task-2009.pdf