Wandering Off Topic

[misty]

http://youtu.be/vphKz-Xjbn0
Operation Omega

It really was just a fishing trip.

[pegasus]

There are 223 pages listing many thousands of car rentals in the files.

[Lace]

I have a question,  as this is the 'Off Topic' thread I think it is ok to post it if not please delete.

Has anyone acted out, whether it would have been possible for Madeleine to have heard Gerry talking in the road from her bedroom?

I have been thinking about this and with the windows closed in my house I don't hear anyone speaking around the back of the house from my bedroom.

Also wouldn't Mrs Fenn have heard Gerry and Jez talking?

[sadie]

I have a question,  as this is the 'Off Topic' thread I think it is ok to post it if not please delete.

Has anyone acted out, whether it would have been possible for Madeleine to have heard Gerry talking in the road from her bedroom?

I have been thinking about this and with the windows closed in my house I don't hear anyone speaking around the back of the house from my bedroom.

Also wouldn't Mrs Fenn have heard Gerry and Jez talking?

With a sleeping child in the pushchair their voices would have been hushed.

From her bedroom, Madeleine would definitely have NOT been able to hear them talking.  Too far away and too many brick walls /windows to go through for sound to reach that far.

As they were standing on the corner of the alleyway which is 10 metres away from the sitting room window ... furthermore out of sight of anyone in that sitting room window, then I think it is virtually impossible that anyone standing in that window would have been able to hear them either ... and that is with the window open.

We don't know if that window was open or closed .

[pegasus]

With a sleeping child in the pushchair their voices would have been hushed.

From her bedroom, Madeleine would definitely have NOT been able to hear them talking.  Too far away and too many brick walls /windows to go through for sound to reach that far.

As they were standing on the corner of the alleyway which is 10 metres away from the sitting room window ... furthermore out of sight of anyone in that sitting room window, then I think it is virtually impossible that anyone standing in that window would have been able to hear them either ... and that is with the window open.

We don't know if that window was open or closed .

IMO the lounge window (behind the sofa) was closed Sadie.
In your opinion, was it single-glazed or double-glazed?
It makes a big difference to sound transmission

[sadie]

IMO the lounge window (behind the sofa) was closed Sadie.
In your opinion, was it single-glazed or double-glazed?
It makes a big difference to sound transmission

I haven't a clue Pegasus, but I would imagine it was single glazed in a warm country.

If you had read my post, you would see that I had just said that I believed that Gerry and Jez would have been chatting in hushed voices, cos Jezes little one was asleep in the pushchair.  They were 10 metres away and out of sight.  Even with the window open I doubt that anyone would have heard in those circumstance ... and certainly not through a closed window, single or double glazed.

IMO

[ShiningInLuz]

I haven't a clue Pegasus, but I would imagine it was single glazed in a warm country.

If you had read my post, you would see that I had just said that I believed that Gerry and Jez would have been chatting in hushed voices, cos Jezes little one was asleep in the pushchair.  They were 10 metres away and out of sight.  Even with the window open I doubt that anyone would have heard in those circumstance ... and certainly not through a closed window, single or double glazed.

IMO

If I can remember, I'll try to nip down for a peek.

I have been in perhaps 15 to 20 properties in Portugal and Spain and all bar 1 had double-glazing.

It is sitting in the low 30s in the shade outside at the moment, but the double glazing means it is low 20s inside.  In winter, it works the opposite way.  If it is, say, 13C outside, then you want something that keeps the heat in efficiently.

Kate writes about checking the patio door to see if wind was going out that way.  If the window was open, then checking the patio door was a bit pointless.

[sadie]

If I can remember, I'll try to nip down for a peek.

I have been in perhaps 15 to 20 properties in Portugal and Spain and all bar 1 had double-glazing.

It is sitting in the low 30s in the shade outside at the moment, but the double glazing means it is low 20s inside.  In winter, it works the opposite way.  If it is, say, 13C outside, then you want something that keeps the heat in efficiently.

Kate writes about checking the patio door to see if wind was going out that way.  If the window was open, then checking the patio door was a bit pointless.

I agree but Kate was in a dreadful panic.  Panicking people do not always do or think of rational things.

On GE street scene it shows the shutters closed.  Am I right in thinking that if the shutters are closed it means either inward opening windows or sliders?

[pegasus]

I agree but Kate was in a dreadful panic.  Panicking people do not always do or think of rational things.

On GE street scene it shows the shutters closed.  Am I right in thinking that if the shutters are closed it means either inward opening windows or sliders?

sliders sadie

[pegasus]

"Parents moved to 5H for a few hours that night,"  So I take that to mean they shared the payne's apartment   for the remainder of the night.

"then moved to 4G day-time 4th" So that was in the Block next door closer to the main road. 

 "then moved to villa on 1st/2nd July."  The villa where the video was taken of the dog search in August.

...(snip)

Yes that's right. Also on about 5th May they were allocated two extra apartments in block 4 (same block as 4G), for guests and office. The move from block 4 apartments to villa took two days 1 and 2 July

[pegasus]

(snip) ..."Other couple were there 28Apr-22May and 30Jun-2Jul" ..(snip)

There are several sources for this, including Outros Apensos 13 mobile phone data. BTW a correction it's 29Jun-02Jul

[Robittybob1]

There are several sources for this, including Outros Apensos 13 mobile phone data. BTW a correction it's 29Jun-02Jul

OK the question that goes through my mind is what was so important for them to go back to PDL just for essentially a couple of days (effectively just the two whole days if they arrive late one day and left early three days later).

[pegasus]

OK the question that goes through my mind is what was so important for them to go back to PDL just for essentially a couple of days (effectively just the one day if they arrive late one day and left early two days later).

It was a nice thing to to go back and support their friends IMO Robbity.
Also see correction (29th not 30th).

[Robittybob1]

It was a nice thing to to go back and support their friends IMO Robbity.
Also see correction (29th not 30th).

I don't know about that as I don't have friends.  I noted the change. 29, 30, 1, 2.  I'll have to see where the dates  land within the week. 29th Friday  30th Saturday 1st July  Sunday 2nd Monday. so it was like having the weekend in PDL.  With a bit time each end to do other things.

[misty]

It was a nice thing to to go back and support their friends IMO Robbity.
Also see correction (29th not 30th).

Possibly also to return GM's wallet to him (as stated in GM's blog for 29th)