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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2445 on: November 06, 2017, 05:54:38 PM »
You are expecting answers when there are none. And suggesting that someone is lying.  This is Libel.

I don't think I have. Could you identify the posts you object to please?
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #2446 on: November 06, 2017, 05:59:35 PM »
I don't think I have. Could you identify the posts you object to please?

No.  But I expect that you can.  Or not.

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2447 on: November 06, 2017, 06:13:54 PM »
IMO it is important to remember that this is a Portuguese case first & foremost. Should the PJ have found it necessary to obtain clarification of certain points relating to the Tapas 9 statements then they would have issued rogatory letters to the UK police.
 Almost all the original statements taken were done so under witness status. AFAIK it is a criminal offence in Portugal to later alter a witness statement. In the same vein, were the UK police to have re-interviewed the McCanns, neither by request of nor in the presence of PJ officers, those statements & any additional evidence obtained from them would be inadmissible in a Portuguese criminal court.
 When SY said the Portuguese legal system is complex, they weren't joking. We have recently witnessed the collapse of the case against Cristovao & his various associates simply because the evidence wasn't collected by the correct authority. No doubt it will be incredibly difficult for the Portuguese prosecutors to get their courts to accept evidence gathered by an overseas authority in the event that same evidence provides grounds for prosecution.
IMO the fact that the PJ do not appear to have ever asked any further questions of the Tapas 9 is further proof  they do not consider the group to have been involved in any way.

AIMHO.

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2448 on: November 06, 2017, 06:29:02 PM »
I am not required to explain anything.  You need to explain your remarks and your actions.

I most certainly do not.

I gave known facts.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2449 on: November 06, 2017, 06:44:53 PM »
IMO it is important to remember that this is a Portuguese case first & foremost. Should the PJ have found it necessary to obtain clarification of certain points relating to the Tapas 9 statements then they would have issued rogatory letters to the UK police.
 Almost all the original statements taken were done so under witness status. AFAIK it is a criminal offence in Portugal to later alter a witness statement. In the same vein, were the UK police to have re-interviewed the McCanns, neither by request of nor in the presence of PJ officers, those statements & any additional evidence obtained from them would be inadmissible in a Portuguese criminal court.
 When SY said the Portuguese legal system is complex, they weren't joking. We have recently witnessed the collapse of the case against Cristovao & his various associates simply because the evidence wasn't collected by the correct authority. No doubt it will be incredibly difficult for the Portuguese prosecutors to get their courts to accept evidence gathered by an overseas authority in the event that same evidence provides grounds for prosecution.
IMO the fact that the PJ do not appear to have ever asked any further questions of the Tapas 9 is further proof  they do not consider the group to have been involved in any way.

AIMHO.

The emphasis placed on what OG thinks and says does tend to obscure the fact that it's a Portuguese case, doesn't it? I imagine the police only interview people if they think they will learn something. In my opinion they would learn nothing by interviewing the T9.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #2450 on: November 06, 2017, 09:18:42 PM »
The emphasis placed on what OG thinks and says does tend to obscure the fact that it's a Portuguese case, doesn't it? I imagine the police only interview people if they think they will learn something. In my opinion they would learn nothing by interviewing the T9.

I would say they have already interviewed the McCanns as witnesses

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2451 on: November 06, 2017, 09:46:46 PM »
The emphasis placed on what OG thinks and says does tend to obscure the fact that it's a Portuguese case, doesn't it? I imagine the police only interview people if they think they will learn something. In my opinion they would learn nothing by interviewing the T9.

There was something not clear in Murats case that needed clearing up though.
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Offline John

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2452 on: November 07, 2017, 12:29:12 AM »
I would say they have already interviewed the McCanns as witnesses

Only the OG team and those supervising it will know this for sure, consequently we can only speculate on what or who OG might be pursuing.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Carana

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2453 on: November 07, 2017, 03:56:22 PM »
The emphasis placed on what OG thinks and says does tend to obscure the fact that it's a Portuguese case, doesn't it? I imagine the police only interview people if they think they will learn something. In my opinion they would learn nothing by interviewing the T9.

It's not just a PT case now, though, surely?

I can't see any reason why the UK would need to necessarily formally re-interview the T9.

If there were question marks about details that they weren't aware of or found unclear, they could presumably interview them informally, see whether the answers corresponded and move on. If, on the other hand, any answers raised red flags, then, yes.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2454 on: November 07, 2017, 04:09:40 PM »
It's not just a PT case now, though, surely?

I can't see any reason why the UK would need to necessarily formally re-interview the T9.

If there were question marks about details that they weren't aware of or found unclear, they could presumably interview them informally, see whether the answers corresponded and move on. If, on the other hand, any answers raised red flags, then, yes.

It's definitely a Portuguese case, as it always was. A British police officer has no more power than any other civilian in Portugal,
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Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2455 on: November 07, 2017, 04:10:28 PM »
It's not just a PT case now, though, surely?

I can't see any reason why the UK would need to necessarily formally re-interview the T9.

If there were question marks about details that they weren't aware of or found unclear, they could presumably interview them informally, see whether the answers corresponded and move on. If, on the other hand, any answers raised red flags, then, yes.

So you can see a reason
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Offline Carana

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2456 on: November 07, 2017, 05:55:29 PM »
So you can see a reason

If it proved necessary.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2457 on: November 07, 2017, 09:18:10 PM »
It's not just a PT case now, though, surely?

I can't see any reason why the UK would need to necessarily formally re-interview the T9.

If there were question marks about details that they weren't aware of or found unclear, they could presumably interview them informally, see whether the answers corresponded and move on. If, on the other hand, any answers raised red flags, then, yes.

Totally agree

stephen25000

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2458 on: November 27, 2017, 10:20:58 AM »
I see it is being reported in the press, that a person who has reputedly given considerable support to the Mccanns has been found quilty of downloading over 40,000 indecent images of children.



http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-man-avoids-prison-after-downloading-over-40-000-indecent-images-of-children-1-5283183

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2459 on: November 27, 2017, 10:38:22 AM »
I see it is being reported in the press, that a person who has reputedly given considerable support to the Mccanns has been found quilty of downloading over 40,000 indecent images of children.



http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-man-avoids-prison-after-downloading-over-40-000-indecent-images-of-children-1-5283183

And this reflects badly on The McCanns in what way, do you think?