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Offline John

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3300 on: June 03, 2018, 04:01:15 PM »
Despite his lucrative career promoting his association with it, we are constantly informed that Amaral holds no responsibility for any of the major decisions made in Madeleine's case.
Don't you think the big boys who did it and ran away put all their eggs into the one basket just as the superintendent in charge of the enquiry into the ripper murders did and overlooked vital evidence just as he did?

Amaral would have been subject to supervisory checks throughout the enquiry.  Although he was a senior detective and coordinator, he could only follow a path sanctioned by his overseers and ultimately the AG.  The problem for Amaral was that he was seen as the public face of the PJ so people wrongly assumed that he was in charge.  He undoubtedly liked the exposure but in the end it was his undoing.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2018, 04:05:01 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3301 on: June 03, 2018, 04:04:19 PM »
I have asked mods not to over moderate the forum but to use some discretion.  A little humour is allowed.


Thank you.
Hopefully the use of discretion will apply equally to both sides of the discussion.
It also means that any sceptic may now be labelled " touchingly naive ".
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline John

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3302 on: June 03, 2018, 04:06:16 PM »

Thank you.
Hopefully the use of discretion will apply equally to both sides of the discussion.
It also means that any sceptic may now be labelled " touchingly naive ".

I'm sure you could think of something more amusing before Alice arrives with another epigram.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2018, 04:09:06 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3303 on: June 03, 2018, 04:06:28 PM »
Amaral would have been subject to supervisory checks throughout the enquiry.  Although he was a senior detective and coordinator, he could only follow a path sanctioned by his overseers and ultimately the AG.  The problem for Amaral was that he was seen as the public face of the PJ so people wrongly assumed that he was in charge.




And yet he was the police officer who felt confident and knowledgeable enough to write "The truth of the lie."!
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline John

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3304 on: June 03, 2018, 04:26:49 PM »



And yet he was the police officer who felt confident and knowledgeable enough to write "The truth of the lie."!

I have no doubt he was confident and knowledgeable, in fact, as coordinator he probably knew more about what was going on than anyone.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3305 on: June 03, 2018, 04:38:26 PM »
I have no doubt he was confident and knowledgeable, in fact, as coordinator he probably knew more about what was going on than anyone.

As you would expect that is not an opinion I share .
I'm sure he shares your opinion of himself.
He always appeared rather smug and self opinionated . IMO
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3306 on: June 03, 2018, 04:39:59 PM »
As you would expect that is not an opinion I share .
I'm sure he shares your opinion of himself.
He always appeared rather smug and self opinionated . IMO

A common fault of mankind.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3307 on: June 03, 2018, 04:49:10 PM »
I have no doubt he was confident and knowledgeable, in fact, as coordinator he probably knew more about what was going on than anyone.

I think he was hugely out of his depth and the added pressure of being made an arguido in Leanor Cipriano's case added to the stress.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3308 on: June 03, 2018, 04:54:05 PM »
As you would expect that is not an opinion I share .
I'm sure he shares your opinion of himself.
He always appeared rather smug and self opinionated . IMO
Yet the ongoing investigation has so far failed to prove him wrong,hey oh such is life.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3309 on: June 03, 2018, 04:58:53 PM »
Yet the ongoing investigation has so far failed to prove him wrong,hey oh such is life.
IMO, the fact the PJ have said there is no evidence against the McCann's proves him wrong.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2018, 02:43:37 AM by John »

Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3310 on: June 03, 2018, 05:00:31 PM »
Yet the ongoing investigation has so far failed to prove him wrong,hey oh such is life.


Neither has the ongoing investigation proved him to be in the slightest correct, hey ho such is life!
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3311 on: June 03, 2018, 05:21:25 PM »
IMO, the fact the PJ have said there is no evidence  against the McCann's proves him wrong

Still doesn't equate to any thing to prove him wrong,until such time as either one comes out with someting along the lines of what SYP did in the Needham case declaring in their professional opinion what happened then all options are open imo or unless they nail some one (England will win the World cup again before that happens).
« Last Edit: June 05, 2018, 02:43:55 AM by John »
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3312 on: June 03, 2018, 05:23:51 PM »

Neither has the ongoing investigation proved him to be in the slightest correct, hey ho such is life!

You've seen the evidence?
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3313 on: June 03, 2018, 05:28:45 PM »
You've seen the evidence?

No, neither have you.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Top
« Reply #3314 on: June 03, 2018, 06:00:29 PM »
Still doesn't equate to any thing to prove him wrong,until such time as either one comes out with someting along the lines of what SYP did in the Needham case declaring in their professional opinion what happened then all options are open imo or unless they nail some one (England will win the World cup again before that happens).

have not realised by now that amarals thesis was based on his poor understanding of the evidence... Have you read his book... Watched his documentary