Wandering Off Topic

[Miss Taken Identity]

I think the authorities did have the power to remove the child as they had done before

German media report that child welfare authorities in Baden-Württemberg state have been heavily criticised for failing to stop the couple's abuse.

The boy had been removed from the couple temporarily by social workers, but was then handed back to them.

Spiegel news website reports that welfare officers had not exchanged information about the case that could have led them to the couple's crimes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45096183
All in all a horrific and upsetting case. I wish the young child well and hope he gets the help he will need to help him get over this and on with his life.

This type of abuse is something the child will never forget or get over.   He has been subjected to the 'normalisation' of sadistic sex of young people. He only knows  humiliation from the grooming, and the worst thing for him is the fact that his parents were perpetrators and active in this crime.  Children who are sadistically abused by parents very rarely find love in its real sense. This will take years of intense therapy, and even then no guarantee he will have  a 'normal' loving relationship. In fact some protect their parents and want to stay with them because they fear the alternative- even though they do not know what that is. but the fear has been placed by the sadistic Bs@rds.  This is the one crime I would gladly see the return of the rope/or other induced death.

Being rejected by parents is bad for childs mental health, being abused is evil.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Another doctor making a childcare 'mistake'?



Two children aged one and two who were left in a roasting car by their doctor parent in 80F midday heat are saved from vehicle by concerned shoppers sparking police investigation

A parent left two children, aged one and two, alone in a hot car in 80F heat
The incident happened at a Morrison's car park in Reigate, Surrey, on Monday
It is not known how long they were left in the car or if the windows were open
Officers say the parent was a doctor and Surrey Police are now investigating

By CHEYENNE ROUNDTREE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 08:57, 7 August 2018 | UPDATED: 19:10, 7 August 2018

Two toddlers had to be rescued when they were left in a hot car alone in a supermarket car park in 80F (26C) degree heat.

Members of the public rushed to free the children, aged one and two, from the vehicle that was parked at a Morrison's store in Reigate, Surrey on Monday. 

It is not known how long the children had been in the car or if there were any windows open as temperatures in the area had reached sweltering conditions.

Officers say the parent was a doctor and Surrey Police are now investigating.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6034329/Two-children-left-roasting-car-DOCTOR-parent-80F-midday-heat.html

In the unlikely event of being called a troll or basher of this 'parent'. I just wonder what the defence will be? it felt safe?

It will be interesting if we hear anything else about this.  What would have happened if the rescuers of these poor children were paedophiles and abducted them? Would the  doctor get time from his/her cell to start up a fund and accuse all and sundry for what happened? 

[G-Unit]

In the unlikely event of being called a troll or basher of this 'parent'. I just wonder what the defence will be? it felt safe?

It will be interesting if we hear anything else about this.  What would have happened if the rescuers of these poor children were paedophiles and abducted them? Would the  doctor get time from his/her cell to start up a fund and accuse all and sundry for what happened?

Apparently responsible parents see leaving small children unattended as fine so long as they're checked on every 30 minutes.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Apparently responsible parents see leaving small children unattended as fine so long as they're checked on every 30 minutes.

checked as in listening at doors?  ah yes. very secure. And I Suppose the car park had an attendant who would do this?  AND CCTV ? so no problems at all.

[Miss Taken Identity]

And Eddie was trained on pig cadavar, so please add that.

Any training that a dog has had cannot be untrained.  Loads about this in a previious thread

IMO, it would be better to accept:

"The dogs are trained to alert to human cadaver odour, dried human blood and to PIG cadaver."

Have the McCanns in any interview proclaimed they came in contact with pig cadaver? AND did they spread this odour in 'certain' parts of the apartment and car? I mean if you had a dead pig would you not want to bag it and freeze it? or bury it underground to have a hog roast? hiding it in a bedroom cupboard seems a bit strange to me IMO.

[Robittybob1]

Have the McCanns in any interview proclaimed they came in contact with pig cadaver? AND did they spread this odour in 'certain' parts of the apartment and car? I mean if you had a dead pig would you not want to bag it and freeze it? or bury it underground to have a hog roast? hiding it in a bedroom cupboard seems a bit strange to me IMO.

And what about all the other tenants that used the 5A apartment before and after the incident?  Did any of them have dealings with a deceased pig?

[jassi]

Have the McCanns in any interview proclaimed they came in contact with pig cadaver? AND did they spread this odour in 'certain' parts of the apartment and car? I mean if you had a dead pig would you not want to bag it and freeze it? or bury it underground to have a hog roast? hiding it in a bedroom cupboard seems a bit strange to me IMO.

Didn't they, or one of their support staff claim that raw pork juices  dripped from a bag all over the back of the car, thereby creating a bad smell?

[G-Unit]

Didn't they, or one of their support staff claim that raw pork juices  dripped from a bag all over the back of the car, thereby creating a bad smell?

I think that was childminder, cook, chauffeur, shopper, removal man, mail ooener, car cleaner and disposer of rubbish Mr Cameron;

I took Patricia to the supermarket. We carried bags in the boot (trunk) of the Renault Scenic; bought various items including fresh fish, shrimp and beef. When we unloaded the shopping bags, we noticed that blood has run out of the bottom of the plastic bag. After this shopping trip and still in the month of July 2007, I began to notice a strange odour in the car. I did not give it much importance and assumed it was likely due to the leakage from the rubbish bags or from the blood which had escaped from the shopping bags. As a result, we removed the carpet from the boot (trunk) in order to clean it. I tossed (beat) the boot carpet to remove any particles and cleaned it with a wet cloth and left it to air out.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/A-J-CAMERON.htm

[Miss Taken Identity]

Didn't they, or one of their support staff claim that raw pork juices  dripped from a bag all over the back of the car, thereby creating a bad smell?

They also mention Kate was  GP, who came into contact with dead people...and they may have had pork for supper.. yeah all there.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I think that was childminder, cook, chauffeur, shopper, removal man, mail ooener, car cleaner and disposer of rubbish Mr Cameron;

I took Patricia to the supermarket. We carried bags in the boot (trunk) of the Renault Scenic; bought various items including fresh fish, shrimp and beef. When we unloaded the shopping bags, we noticed that blood has run out of the bottom of the plastic bag. After this shopping trip and still in the month of July 2007, I began to notice a strange odour in the car. I did not give it much importance and assumed it was likely due to the leakage from the rubbish bags or from the blood which had escaped from the shopping bags. As a result, we removed the carpet from the boot (trunk) in order to clean it. I tossed (beat) the boot carpet to remove any particles and cleaned it with a wet cloth and left it to air out.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/A-J-CAMERON.htm

G was this in response to an INDEPENDENT witness who saw the car being left with the boot lid open?

[Brietta]

There was a time when this thread could be an intensely interesting one which covered a wide range of topics in an informative and amicable fashion.
I think if Pegasus ever drops in from time to time he must despair at the degeneration which has occurred since he last posted here.  I know I do.

[G-Unit]

There was a time when this thread could be an intensely interesting one which covered a wide range of topics in an informative and amicable fashion.
I think if Pegasus ever drops in from time to time he must despair at the degeneration which has occurred since he last posted here.  I know I do.

I don't recall any amicable threads. How memories differ.

[misty]

I don't recall any amicable threads. How memories differ.

They usually occurred on the graveyard shift.

[slartibartfast]

I don't recall any amicable threads. How memories differ.

We go through periods of calm discussion every now and then...

[Sunny]

And what about all the other tenants that used the 5A apartment before and after the incident?  Did any of them have dealings with a deceased pig?

Surely any later tenants of 5a who had dealings with a deceased pig would do such a thing in the kitchen and I don't recall the dog alerting there.