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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #4290 on: August 17, 2018, 07:08:36 PM »
I find my reaction to the McCanns odd because as a long term member of Liberty and someone who has campaigned for years for prisoners convicted of miscarriages of justice my default position is giving individuals the benefit of the doubt until I’m proved wrong. Right from the beginning though I strongly felt there was something we were not being told.

I certainly share your opinion that your reaction to the McCanns is decidedly odd.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #4291 on: August 17, 2018, 07:14:30 PM »
I find my reaction to the McCanns odd because as a long term member of Liberty and someone who has campaigned for years for prisoners convicted of miscarriages of justice my default position is giving individuals the benefit of the doubt until I’m proved wrong. Right from the beginning though I strongly felt there was something we were not being told.

Don't worry about finding it odd... I can explain it.... Basically suffering  from an acute case of confusion.... Your signature talks of knowing suspects are guilty when the available evidence doesn't support it...and yet you are concerned  with miscarriages of justice...

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #4292 on: August 17, 2018, 07:16:19 PM »
I find my reaction to the McCanns odd because as a long term member of Liberty and someone who has campaigned for years for prisoners convicted of miscarriages of justice my default position is giving individuals the benefit of the doubt until I’m proved wrong. Right from the beginning though I strongly felt there was something we were not being told.
Why ditch the benefit of the doubt and the presumption of innocence just in this case though?  Nice bit of virtue signalling btw..
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #4293 on: August 17, 2018, 07:20:30 PM »
I find my reaction to the McCanns odd because as a long term member of Liberty and someone who has campaigned for years for prisoners convicted of miscarriages of justice my default position is giving individuals the benefit of the doubt until I’m proved wrong. Right from the beginning though I strongly felt there was something we were not being told.

How do you feel your fellow members of liberty would feel seeing Cipriano appearing in court... Having been beaten black and blue... When the only evidence was a confession..

Do you think you should reconsider your membership

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #4294 on: August 17, 2018, 07:22:32 PM »
I prefer to make my decisions based on evidence rather than gut feeling.. Aka... Guesswork.

I haven't made any decisions. I don't know what crime was committed or who did it.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #4295 on: August 17, 2018, 07:24:23 PM »
I haven't made any decisions. I don't know what crime was committed or who did it.

But you have decided you don't believe kate when she says the window was open

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #4296 on: August 17, 2018, 07:28:14 PM »
I certainly share your opinion that your reaction to the McCanns is decidedly odd.

She shoots and she scores ! Bit of an open goal though.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #4297 on: August 17, 2018, 07:30:20 PM »
I haven't made any decisions. I don't know what crime was committed or who did it.

Based on the evidence I have decided, abduction is way ahead most likely..... W and W.... Unlikely but possible... Parenatal involvement near, zero

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #4298 on: August 17, 2018, 07:33:20 PM »
But you have decided you don't believe kate when she says the window was open

You may think that, but in my opinion it's not something I have said.
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Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #4299 on: August 17, 2018, 07:38:10 PM »
How do you feel your fellow members of liberty would feel seeing Cipriano appearing in court... Having been beaten black and blue... When the only evidence was a confession..

Do you think you should reconsider your membership

TBH I don’t think Liberty would touch Cipriano ( interesting you don’t think she deserves a christian name ) with a bargepole. Too many changes of story.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #4300 on: August 17, 2018, 07:46:08 PM »
TBH I don’t think Liberty would touch Cipriano ( interesting you don’t think she deserves a christian name ) with a bargepole. Too many changes of story.

that wasnt the question I asked...you were unable to answer that

Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #4301 on: August 17, 2018, 08:49:53 PM »
It;s not my opinion. It's your opinion of my opinion.
And other's jumping to conclusions about your opinion.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #4302 on: August 17, 2018, 08:59:18 PM »
of course gunit does not have to reply   so Im free to state my opinion on what her reply would be
Davel ease up a bit. 
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

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« Reply #4303 on: August 17, 2018, 09:05:06 PM »
Don't you get them? My first strong one was Gordon Wardell.

That guy just murdered his wife and children and stands like nothing is wrong... OMG!! 

I get them a lot G... you can spot them a mile off... I found the police suspicions to be spot on  on many occasions. This page if you scroll down will show how they suspected byt the tiny wee inconsistances- inexplicable.. pure brilliance.

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Police suspicion
Early during the investigation, police began to suspect that Gordon Wardell's story was not all that it seemed. Wardell had previously been convicted of a serious sexual assault and grievous bodily harm in the 1970s for which he had spent time in prison. This had brought him under suspicion. Members of the press had also discovered this and raised questions about it during press conferences.[8]

During the police reconstruction of the night before the murder, Wardell visited a public house in Coventry called The Brooklands, but none of the staff nor customers remembered seeing Wardell in the pub.[9]

The manner under which Wardell had been found tied and gagged in his home also didn't make sense to investigating officers. He had described being attacked by two men approaching him from the side, just after he had entered his house. Officers noticed that there wasn't enough room near the door for two men to stand or hide.[10]

Wardell had been found by police in his underpants, tied and gagged on the living room floor. It didn't make sense that police found Wardell's clothes and shoes had been placed carefully to one side near where he was found.[11]

Wardell had stated that he had been made unconscious by a drug administered via cloth that had been placed over his face. The drug had left him unconscious for several hours until police arrived the following morning. Experts had stated that there wasn't a drug that could be administered this way that would sedate Wardell for any more than a few minutes. A drug could have been injected but would have required medical knowledge and wouldn't have lasted for more than seven hours.[12]

Police became aware that Wardell had been visiting prostitutes in the red light district of Coventry. Two of the prostitutes came forward to tell Police that they recognised Wardell from regular visits he'd made to them.[13]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Carol_Wardell

'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #4304 on: August 17, 2018, 09:08:33 PM »
And then leave it at that and get onto another subject.
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