Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

So is it your view that anyone who is depressed has nothing to add to the conversation about depression, and should simply shut up about it, or does that only apply to Gerry McCann...in your opinion?

It remains to be seen whether Gerry McCann will claim to have been depressed.

[Brietta]

Its what they did that overwhelms me........

It also overwhelms them every single day of their lives since then.  They have absolutely no choice in the matter, but one wonders what your motivation could possibly be for in my opinion, dwelling on their often acknowledged error to the point of obsession.

Their ignorance of the dark underbelly of Portuguese life may have led to their mistake ... what do you think is the excuse for compounding that with ~ in my opinion ~ the incompetence of those alleged guardians of the innocent who were very well aware of the lawlessness of their society but ignored it all to wipe the slate clean with a quick arrest and in the process leading the search for Madeleine 'down a blind alley' ... then business as usual.



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Gerry McCann told yesterday of his terrible regret at leaving his children alone on the night Madeleine disappeared.

He admitted: 'We made a mistake, but we are paying more for it than anyone could ever possibly imagine.'

The father of three said he and his wife Kate had thought at the time it was 'perfectly reasonable' to leave Madeleine, then three, and their two-year-old twins alone in an unlocked holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.

He added: 'Hindsight has proven we made a mistake and we would never leave the children again.'
_______________________________________________________________________________

The President of the Portuguese Order of Lawyers, Antonio Marinho e Pinto, said yesterday that he believes detectives are hiding behind the country's strict secrecy laws.

He added: 'There are strong reasons to fear that judicial secrecy is being used to conceal the fact that the police have gone down a blind alley and don't have a way out.'
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1016816/Our-mistake-leaving-Madeleine-Gerry-McCann.html

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course.....isn't that what he is doing it for ..publicity...

At a time when more money is needed .....in my opinion....

More money for what?

[G-Unit]

More money for what?

I've left some questions for you on the 'Fund wipe out thread'.

[Eleanor]

Don't suppose any are perfect but the majority put their children first...especially there safety...



Didn't Prince Harry do the same thing .....although without an ulterior motive...in my opinion...

This comment doesn't make sense.  If you think you put your children always first then how can you make a mistake?  Are there variations of a theme, or is it possible to be distracted for some reason?

The comment about Prince Harry leaves me totally bewildered.  Please could you elucidate?

[xtina]

It also overwhelms them every single day of their lives since then.  They have absolutely no choice in the matter, but one wonders what your motivation could possibly be for in my opinion, dwelling on their often acknowledged error to the point of obsession.

Their ignorance of the dark underbelly of Portuguese life may have led to their mistake ... what do you think is the excuse for compounding that with ~ in my opinion ~ the incompetence of those alleged guardians of the innocent who were very well aware of the lawlessness of their society but ignored it all to wipe the slate clean with a quick arrest and in the process leading the search for Madeleine 'down a blind alley' ... then business as usual.



Snip
Gerry McCann told yesterday of his terrible regret at leaving his children alone on the night Madeleine disappeared.

He admitted: 'We made a mistake, but we are paying more for it than anyone could ever possibly imagine.'

The father of three said he and his wife Kate had thought at the time it was 'perfectly reasonable' to leave Madeleine, then three, and their two-year-old twins alone in an unlocked holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.

He added: 'Hindsight has proven we made a mistake and we would never leave the children again.'
_______________________________________________________________________________

The President of the Portuguese Order of Lawyers, Antonio Marinho e Pinto, said yesterday that he believes detectives are hiding behind the country's strict secrecy laws.

He added: 'There are strong reasons to fear that judicial secrecy is being used to conceal the fact that the police have gone down a blind alley and don't have a way out.'
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1016816/Our-mistake-leaving-Madeleine-Gerry-McCann.html

your post is fine ....if you believe the mccs version of events........ I dont.


one wonders what your motivation could possibly be for in my opinion, dwelling on their often acknowledged error to the point of obsession.


No, I'm not obsessed ....just like to put my opinion across.

[ShiningInLuz]

It also overwhelms them every single day of their lives since then.  They have absolutely no choice in the matter, but one wonders what your motivation could possibly be for in my opinion, dwelling on their often acknowledged error to the point of obsession.

Their ignorance of the dark underbelly of Portuguese life may have led to their mistake ... what do you think is the excuse for compounding that with ~ in my opinion ~ the incompetence of those alleged guardians of the innocent who were very well aware of the lawlessness of their society but ignored itall to wipe the slate clean with a quick arrest and in the process leading the search for Madeleine 'down a blind alley' ... then business as usual.



Snip
Gerry McCann told yesterday of his terrible regret at leaving his children alone on the night Madeleine disappeared.

He admitted: 'We made a mistake, but we are paying more for it than anyone could ever possibly imagine.'

The father of three said he and his wife Kate had thought at the time it was 'perfectly reasonable' to leave Madeleine, then three, and their two-year-old twins alone in an unlocked holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.

He added: 'Hindsight has proven we made a mistake and we would never leave the children again.'
_______________________________________________________________________________

The President of the Portuguese Order of Lawyers, Antonio Marinho e Pinto, said yesterday that he believes detectives are hiding behind the country's strict secrecy laws.

He added: 'There are strong reasons to fear that judicial secrecy is being used to conceal the fact that the police have gone down a blind alley and don't have a way out.'
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1016816/Our-mistake-leaving-Madeleine-Gerry-McCann.html

dark underbelly - lawlessness of their society.

This is classic Clarence.  If he ever steps down properly, perhaps you should offer your services in PR/propaganda to the McCanns.

 

[xtina]

dark underbelly - lawlessness of their society.

This is classic Clarence.  If he ever steps down properly, perhaps you should offer your services in PR/propaganda to the McCanns.

 

Yes, I think it was written for him ... by a PR....in my opinion...

[Brietta]

dark underbelly - lawlessness of their society.

This is classic Clarence.  If he ever steps down properly, perhaps you should offer your services in PR/propaganda to the McCanns.

 

It is one or the other in my opinion ... either it was safe to eat a meal less than a minute away from your children ... or it was not.

Almost without exception it appears it is agreed it was not. 

Retrospectively we now know about the far too many home invasions endemic in the Algarve at the time Madeleine disappeared which entirely sums up my description of the dark underbelly of lawlessness ... feel free to find an alternative more to your liking ... as long as it fits the facts, as mine does.

[ShiningInLuz]

It is one or the other in my opinion ... either it was safe to eat a meal less than a minute away from your children ... or it was not.

Almost without exception it appears it is agreed it was not. 

Retrospectively we now know about the far too many home invasions endemic in the Algarve at the time Madeleine disappeared which entirely sums up my description of the dark underbelly of lawlessness ... feel free to find an alternative more to your liking ... as long as it fits the facts, as mine does.

Actually, we don't.

We have no comparable figures for crime rates in UK seaside towns in 2007.  Nor comparable figures for the Algarve in the year before and the year after.

Consequently, your 'dark underbelly of lawlessness' is a product of your imagination.

[Eleanor]

It is one or the other in my opinion ... either it was safe to eat a meal less than a minute away from your children ... or it was not.

Almost without exception it appears it is agreed it was not. 

Retrospectively we now know about the far too many home invasions endemic in the Algarve at the time Madeleine disappeared which entirely sums up my description of the dark underbelly of lawlessness ... feel free to find an alternative more to your liking ... as long as it fits the facts, as mine does.

Could it have happened if The McCanns were asleep?  It seems likely, according to what else was going on.  And then too much risk was taken for this to have been in passing.
So unlikely that this was a paedophile.

I continue to live in hope, as do The McCanns.

[xtina]

This comment doesn't make sense.  If you think you put your children always first then how can you make a mistake?  Are there variations of a theme, or is it possible to be distracted for some reason?

The comment about Prince Harry leaves me totally bewildered.  Please could you elucidate?

Lets say prince harry has already done that...what gmcc is doing....


In a rare and extraordinarily frank interview, Prince Harry again defied British royal tradition, discussing years of pain managing his life and mental health, difficulties that he ties directly to the early death of his mother—and disclosing that he has needed therapy to come to terms with it.



In a podcast interview with Telegraph columnist Bryony Gordon that has been widely broadcast and praised by the media, he admitted to years of attacks both of panic and rage, disclosing that his life was in "total chaos" for two years.

“I just couldn’t put my finger on it," he said. "I just didn’t know what was wrong with me.”

[Eleanor]

Lets say prince harry has already done that...what gmcc is doing....


In a rare and extraordinarily frank interview, Prince Harry again defied British royal tradition, discussing years of pain managing his life and mental health, difficulties that he ties directly to the early death of his mother—and disclosing that he has needed therapy to come to terms with it.



In a podcast interview with Telegraph columnist Bryony Gordon that has been widely broadcast and praised by the media, he admitted to years of attacks both of panic and rage, disclosing that his life was in "total chaos" for two years.

“I just couldn’t put my finger on it," he said. "I just didn’t know what was wrong with me.”

Ah, I see.  Me too also, although I was a teensy bit younger than Harry when it happened to me.  I don't talk about it.  I dealt with it myself.

But it might have something to do with the occasional Anxiety that I sometimes have to deal with.  However, no one was even remotely interested in my young days, so I will never know if talking about it would have helped.

Gosh.  I nearly lost my breath there for a minute.

[faithlilly]

Ah, I see.  Me too also, although I was a teensy bit younger than Harry when it happened to me.  I don't talk about it.  I dealt with it myself.

But it might have something to do with the occasional Anxiety that I sometimes have to deal with.  However, no one was even remotely interested in my young days, so I will never know if talking about it would have helped.

Gosh.  I nearly lost my breath there for a minute.

It’s never too late to seek help Eleanor. You no longer, thankfully, have to just live with the rehabilitating effects of anxiety.

[Eleanor]

It’s never too late to seek help Eleanor. You no longer, thankfully, have to just live with the rehabilitating effects of anxiety.

I don't need help, Faith.  It was all far too long ago, and all of my children survived my laxidaisical approach to parenting.    But thanks for what I am sure was a kind thought.

Beside, you all keep me going on the rare occasion that it matters.  There is a camaraderie amongst us, even if we don't agree.