Wandering Off Topic

[jassi]

I believe they did knock on doors, just not at 4 o'clock in the morning.

For a resident to have seen anything, they would have had to have been out and about themselves, or looking out of windows.
Dark night, little moonlight , according to Russell - little chance of seeing anything .  IMO.

[faithlilly]

What would have been the point if it had already been done?

Did Mrs. Fenn speak Portuguese, by the way?

But it wasn’t obvious whether it had been done. The police certainly were not there. Surely the more calls the better ? As to Mrs Fenn speaking Portuguese, I’m sure she wouldn’t have offered to call the police if she didn’t think she’d have been understood.

[G-Unit]

From Russell O'Brian's statement -

 Erm, the next, so, you know, at some point I think I felt, I was starting to feel sort of useless again, just hanging around the apartment, you know, there were a lot of people, you know, going around at this point, so I opted, after the pictures and after a period of time back in the flat and conversations to go away again, erm, and this time I searched over and on towards the Millennium Restaurant, so in a, in a completely different direction to where I had been before.  As I said, I don’t think the, although people, there was some coordination within small groups of individuals, there wasn’t really a systematic route to anyone being searched, so I may have been covering ground that had been done before, but, nonetheless, I chose somewhere that I hadn’t been before, erm, searched along those roads, there’s a few alleys that kind of, well alleys the wrong word, erm, roads that I presume higher up just sort of go, you know, lead out of town, that run parallel to the road that goes up past Millennium, erm, I went round a few of, erm, a couple of these with increasing futility really, and I think despite there being a bit of moonlight, I couldn’t really see very much, erm, there were sort of dog barks and you kind of think, you know, ‘I’m just going to walk into some field of rabid dogs’, so in the end I kind of double back.

He also makes no mention of Jane's sighting in relation to his searches. He went north simply because he hadn't looked up there before.

[G-Unit]

But it wasn’t obvious whether it had been done. The police certainly were not there. Surely the more calls the better ? As to Mrs Fenn speaking Portuguese, I’m sure she wouldn’t have offered to call the police if she didn’t think she’d have been understood.

In Rachael's rog interview she mentions ringing Matthew'at least once or twice' to ask him if he had called the police. Unfortunately she doesn't say was his reply was. Eventually he returned and was sent back to reception by Gerry to check if the police had been called. The receptionist mentions neither of these visits.

[Brietta]

When Jane saw the man she had no idea it could be Madeleine.  When Kate came back in the alarmed state Jane wasn't there to tell the others about what she saw.

Everything is always so clear in hindsight isn't it though.  Even if Jane had been at the table to hear Kate's screams would she even have had time to analyse what she had seen to be able to impart that information before everyone raced off to start looking for Madeleine?

[jassi]

Everything is always so clear in hindsight isn't it though.  Even if Jane had been at the table to hear Kate's screams would she even have had time to analyse what she had seen to be able to impart that information before everyone raced off to start looking for Madeleine?

The idea of it being Madeleine came later.

[Robittybob1]

Mrs Fenn offered. Why wasn’t the offer accepted...even if the police had already been called ?

What were her words that confirm that Mrs Fenn offered to call the police?

[Sunny]

What were her words that confirm that Mrs Fenn offered to call the police?

From Mrs Fenn's statement

At that moment she offered Gerry help, saying that he could use her phone to contact the authorities, to which he replied that this had already been done. It was just after 22.30.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

[Brietta]

What would have been the point if it had already been done?

Did Mrs. Fenn speak Portuguese, by the way?

The Police eventually got round to conducting an interview with Mrs Fenn on the 20th of August of the year in which Madeleine disappeared on 3rd May.

Mrs Fenn neither spoke or read Portuguese and required an interpreter.

Snip
Being of British nationality and in spite of living in Portugal, does not have knowledge of the Portuguese language in its oral and written form, therefore a police interpreter is present, UEVE VAN LOOCK.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

[Robittybob1]

From Mrs Fenn's statement

At that moment she offered Gerry help, saying that he could use her phone to contact the authorities, to which he replied that this had already been done. It was just after 22.30.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

She offered a phone not offered to call the police. Thanks Sunny.

[jassi]

What were her words that confirm that Mrs Fenn offered to call the police?

"She found it strange that Gerry when said that a girl had been abducted, he did not mention that it was his daughter and that he did not mention any other scenarios. At that moment she offered Gerry help, saying that he could use her phone to contact the authorities, to which he replied that this had already been done. It was just after 22.30."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

[Sunny]

She offered a phone not offered to call the police.

SIL said this Rob


Oh, an offer by Mrs Fenn to use her phone to call the police was rejected.

Which is EXACTLY what she did.

[Brietta]

The idea of it being Madeleine was only in its infancy at that moment.  Barely conceived, one might  even say.

I don't think your post contains one iota of sense.  "At that moment" there had been no "conception" or "infancy" associated with the alarm of Madeleine's disappearance being raised.  It has been stated in other posts that at the time the only witness to the male child carrier was Jane Tanner who was not present at the table when the others became aware of Madeleine's disappearance.
Unless you have a cite to the differ?

[Eleanor]

From Mrs Fenn's statement

At that moment she offered Gerry help, saying that he could use her phone to contact the authorities, to which he replied that this had already been done. It was just after 22.30.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

Nothing to see there.

[Robittybob1]

SIL said this Rob


Oh, an offer by Mrs Fenn to use her phone to call the police was rejected.

Which is EXACTLY what she did.

Once you reminded me that Mrs Fenn offered her phone, I recalled the situation.  It was just that I couldn't remember that anyone offered to call the police, even though at times people can be indirect.