Wandering Off Topic

[faithlilly]

Are you seriously suggesting that a mature woman and two police officers would have ignored a statement by a qualified doctor that her children were showing signs of having been sedated by a criminal? In my opinion no-one would have let such a statement pass without comment or action.

And, if drugged, Kate would have known that her children may be in mortal danger so why didn’t she push the issue or even mention her fears to the friends and family she talked with on the phone ? If the Portuguese police had ignored Kate’s ‘reports’ and put her children in danger don’t you think we’d have heard about it before 2011 ? I mean what a huge stick that would have been to beat the PJ with. Imagine the headlines ‘ Heartless Portuguese Police Ignored Traumatised Parents Pleas to Help Save Twins’.

[Vertigo Swirl]

And, if drugged, Kate would have known that her children may be in mortal danger so why didn’t she push the issue or even mention her fears to the friends and family she talked with on the phone ? If the Portuguese police had ignored Kate’s ‘reports’ and put her children in danger don’t you think we’d have heard about it before 2011 ? I mean what a huge stick that would have been to beat the PJ with. Imagine the headlines ‘ Heartless Portuguese Police Ignored Traumatised Parents Pleas to Help Save Twins’.

*Groundhog Day Klaxon*

[Sunny]

From Madeleine

‘We tried to explain what had happened. David reiterated his concerns about roadblocks and border notification and I reported my fears that all three children could have been sedated. A lady called Sílvia, who worked at the Ocean Club, had arrived to help out with translation. We learned later that she was the maintenance and services manager. I remember her telling me that she had two grown-up daughters herself. She was very kind and I was glad of her help and support.’


Strange that not one of the people who the parents called that night report either of them voicing any fears that the twins may have been sedated and that their concerns were being ignored. Sílvia Batista, who would have translated any concerns, makes no mention of Kate raising any concerns either.

Odd that isn't it, Faithlilly. 

[faithlilly]

Odd that isn't it, Faithlilly.

Very Sunny.

[G-Unit]

Are you seriously suggesting that the distraught mother of a missing child, with two seemingly drugged children would make up such a lie, one that could be so easily refuted not only by Silivia Batista but by two officers of the law, who would be able to use this as evidence of deceit on the part of the one time suspect?

AFAIK the claim that she raised the matter with the GNR officers via Silvia Batista'a translation was made in 2011, four years after the event.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Very Sunny.

Rainy here. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

AFAIK the claim that she raised the matter with the GNR officers via Silvia Batista'a translation was made in 2011, four years after the event.

So?  Did Silvia Batista and the two GNR officers pass away prior to this astounding revelation in 2011, allowing her to make stuff up without fear of contradiction?

[jassi]

So?  Did Silvia Batista and the two GNR officers pass away prior to this astounding revelation in 2011, allowing her to make stuff up without fear of contradiction?

Unless they've read the book what she wrote they are unlikely to have any  idea what she has said and no means to dispute it

[Sunny]

Are you seriously suggesting that the distraught mother of a missing child, with two seemingly drugged children would make up such a lie, one that could be so easily refuted not only by Silivia Batista but by two officers of the law, who would be able to use this as evidence of deceit on the part of the one time suspect?

Well who was it who made up "such a lie". Either a lie by omission by the police, Sylvia Batista and possibly even some Mark Warner Employees or a lie by Kate McCann. Someone has been economical with the truth IMO

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well who was it who made up "such a lie". Either a lie by omission by the police, Sylvia Batista and possibly even some Mark Warner Employees or a lie by Kate McCann. Someone has been economical with the truth IMO

It would not be a "lie by omission" by the police or Sylvia Batista, were they asked to recount all of Kate's articulations, fears and outbursts no.  I'm sure she said a lot of things that night, some of it probably quite incoherent and deranged sounding, there must be plenty she said that was never recounted in any great detail.  At the time the GNR and Batista may well have thought her fears were the rantings of an hysterical woman, particularly as none of them seemed to buy into the abduction theory, and therefore not worth mentioning.  Why do you have to be so binary and black and white about it?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Unless they've read the book what she wrote they are unlikely to have any  idea what she has said and no means to dispute it

Why is it unlikely that people directly involved in the events of that night would have any interest in reading a book about it or their role in it?

[jassi]

Why is it unlikely that people directly involved in the events of that night would have any interest in reading a book about it or their role in it?

I didn't comment on likelihood, I said IF they had read it

[Eleanor]

Well who was it who made up "such a lie". Either a lie by omission by the police, Sylvia Batista and possibly even some Mark Warner Employees or a lie by Kate McCann. Someone has been economical with the truth IMO

This is not the same thing.  And this is bordering on Libel.  Please don't.

[Brietta]

Didn't Sylvia Batista feature prominently in the files and the Amaral account of events with an opinion depending which one of her statements you chose to read?

[faithlilly]

Didn't Sylvia Batista feature prominently in the files and the Amaral account of events with an opinion depending which one of her statements you chose to read?

No.