Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

No, it says that according to an unnamed source at the PJ's Lisbon headquarters 'evidence of a string of crimes had been the driving force behind Portuguese officials re-opening the case'.

So, was that true, or was it suspicions about a dead tractor driver?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2480161/Madeleine-McCann-investigations-main-suspect-died-4-years-ago.html

What string of crimes and how is th PJ investigating them as part of the McCann case NOT evidence that they were looking at stranger abduction in 2013?

[G-Unit]

What string of crimes and how is th PJ investigating them as part of the McCann case NOT evidence that they were looking at stranger abduction in 2013?

Nobody said what the string of crimes were, did they? The newspaper tried to imply it was the villa incursions, but nobody confirmed that. The PJ may well have looked at stranger abduction, but according to Pedro do Carmo they never concluded that it was the crime which was committed on 3rd May 2007.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Nobody said what the string of crimes were, did they? The newspaper tried to imply it was the villa incursions, but nobody confirmed that. The PJ may well have looked at stranger abduction, but according to Pedro do Carmo they never concluded that it was the crime which was committed on 3rd May 2007.

So when the PJ talk about a “string of crimes” they have been investigating in their own country do you think it’s possible they are referring to a string of crimes involving the McCanns?

[Vertigo Swirl]

So, G-Unit, let’s get this straight:  when the PJ say they  re-opened the investigation into Madeleinee’s disappearance in 2013  by investigating a string of crimes in their country, then you don’t see that as evidence that they are considering stranger abduction as the cause of the disappearance? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

So, G-Unit, let’s get this straight:  when the PJ say they  re-opened the investigation into Madeleinee’s disappearance in 2013  by investigating a string of crimes in their country, then you don’t see that as evidence that they are considering stranger abduction as the cause of the disappearance?

G-Unit has declined to reply, so draw your own conclusions.  It seems some people really do believe that when the Met asked the PJ to re-open the case so that they could investigate a stranger abduction, the PJ agreed but then pursued a completely separate investigation into a "string of crimes" that had nothing to do with the Met's theory of stranger abduction.  Go figure. 

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G-Unit has declined to reply, so draw your own conclusions.  It seems some people really do believe that when the Met asked the PJ to re-open the case so that they could investigate a stranger abduction, the PJ agreed but then pursued a completely separate investigation into a "string of crimes" that had nothing to do with the Met's theory of stranger abduction.  Go figure.

As recently as 2017  Pedro do Carmo said in relation to a question asking if they accepted the girl was abducted replied we don't know what happened and have to be prepared for different scenarios's.

[Vertigo Swirl]

As recently as 2017  Pedro do Carmo said in relation to a question asking if they accepted the girl was abducted replied we don't know what happened and have to be prepared for different scenarios's.

G-Unit said:

I would like to see evidence that the PJ were investigating 'abduction' in 2013.

I provided the evidence that they were.

She rejected that evidence.

Do you too?

[G-Unit]

G-Unit said:

I would like to see evidence that the PJ were investigating 'abduction' in 2013.

I provided the evidence that they were.

She rejected that evidence.

Do you too?

You were unable to provide evidence, just newspaper speculations and rumours.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You were unable to provide evidence, just newspaper speculations and rumours.

If you are able to think this through logically you will see that obviously the PJ reopened the investigation in tandem with the Met based on new information pointing to a stranger abduction.  ALL the news reports at the time, including those in Portugal make this clear.  Another rather large clue is the fact that several individuals who were not the McCanns nor their friends were made arguidos by the PJ as part of the reinvestigation.  Of course if logical thought is not available to you, then that opens up any old daft alternative scenarios to you.  Believe what you wish, it matters not a jot to me. 

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G-Unit said:

I would like to see evidence that the PJ were investigating 'abduction' in 2013.

I provided the evidence that they were.

She rejected that evidence.

Do you too?

If they did,coupled with what was said in 2017 then its likely to have moved on from abduction. IMO.

[G-Unit]

If you are able to think this through logically you will see that obviously the PJ reopened the investigation in tandem with the Met based on new information pointing to a stranger abduction.  ALL the news reports at the time, including those in Portugal make this clear.  Another rather large clue is the fact that several individuals who were not the McCanns nor their friends were made arguidos by the PJ as part of the reinvestigation.  Of course if logical thought is not available to you, then that opens up any old daft alternative scenarios to you.  Believe what you wish, it matters not a jot to me.

What I noticed was that the Portuguese investigation was reopened immediately after the Crimewatch programme when the efits of Smithman were (finally) released.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What I noticed was that the Portuguese investigation was reopened immediately after the Crimewatch programme when the efits of Smithman were (finally) released.

Meaning?

[barrier]

There's an interesting programme regarding the MET and  investigation's,its focusing on last year with what then was record numbers of people being killed, also a robbery with the robber brandishing a firearm.A rape case and successful prosecution also featured. I would think imo anyway that the OG inquiry would feature way down on the list of priorities.
Its available on bbc  i player,the third part is due to be on this coming Thursday.

[Angelo222]

There's an interesting programme regarding the MET and  investigation's,its focusing on last year with what then was record numbers of people being killed, also a robbery with the robber brandishing a firearm.A rape case and successful prosecution also featured. I would think imo anyway that the OG inquiry would feature way down on the list of priorities.
Its available on bbc  i player,the third part is due to be on this coming Thursday.

I would agree, the Portuguese police have more important things to do rather than chase ghosts.

[Brietta]

I would agree, the Portuguese police have more important things to do rather than chase ghosts.

Indeed in 2007 they appeared to have more important things to do than solve burglaries in their resorts; track down an intruder or perhaps even more than one who appeared to have carte blanche to make free with children in the holiday homes which were invaded without let or hindrance; they also appeared to have a very laid back attitude when it came to tracking individuals, having missed out on Tannerman and Smithman to name but two of many; they also appeared relaxed about determining exactly what sort of crime might have been committed against Madeleine McCann ... didn't stop them from throwing everything they could dream up at trying to determine the parents dunnit ... they couldn't even manage that though.