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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8640 on: October 20, 2020, 03:22:01 PM »
In other words you are prepared to believe what Wolters says. I neither believe or disbelieve him, and until he gets enough to charge his suspect it's immaterial.
I haven't used the word believe..you have
I think based on the fact HCW has said he had evidence.   ..in a country with such strict privacy laws...it's reasonable to assume he has evidence .
You ...we will soon know
I don't blindly believe him...that would be ridiculous

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8641 on: October 20, 2020, 03:28:53 PM »
I haven't used the word believe..you have
I think based on the fact HCW has said he had evidence.   ..in a country with such strict privacy laws...it's reasonable to assume he has evidence .
You ...we will soon know
I don't blindly believe him...that would be ridiculous

You used assume, which means suppose to be the case, without proof.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8642 on: October 20, 2020, 03:31:57 PM »
Well I know at least one who's sneaked in there, ignoring your rules.

Sneaked In?  How very peculiar.  But it does rather prove my point.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8643 on: October 20, 2020, 03:35:14 PM »
You used assume, which means suppose to be the case, without proof.
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What do you mean by proof...balance of probabilities...beyond reasonable doubt .. absolute..
I think on the balance of probabilities...which is a level of proof....he has evidence.

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8644 on: October 20, 2020, 03:36:18 PM »
In other words you are prepared to believe what Wolters says. I neither believe or disbelieve him, and until he gets enough to charge his suspect it's immaterial.
The most telling aspect of HCW's decision to 'out' CB is that he would not have been afforded the opportunity if he wasn't already in custody. So if we're dealing with 'facts', then HCW came in to possession of his 'evidence' much later. This can only reasonably be the jailhouse snitch, which I'm sure all prosecutors would avoid using if at all possible.
However this particular snitch provided something compelling, but not quite enough. I've said it before, there's very limited scope as to what this is.
So they then do what every decent prosecutor does, he doesn't just drop his snitch, he pumps him dry and at a certain tipping point this snitch will say just about anything if he thinks he's being believed.
This snitch provides more names of 'accomplices' and 'acquaintances', in the hope of time off, or favourable terms (despite it being illegal in Germany), who are subsequently, equally pumped for information until their eyes bleed - hence the searches.
If HCW had enough on CB now, after this protracted fishing expedition, he would have used it. There's nothing come to fruition, no irons in the CB fire and the secret caches of filth have run dry.

We're at an impasse. I bet HCW is popular with the people on the 12th Floor - his appendage is well and truly on the block.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8645 on: October 20, 2020, 03:41:59 PM »
It's evidence that he thinks he has evidence. Not sufficient to charge his suspect though, as he has also admitted.
No one has claimed he has enough evidence to charge his suspect, but I have no reason to believe that the prosecutor is a liar, do you? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Snowgirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8646 on: October 20, 2020, 03:46:37 PM »
No one has claimed he has enough evidence to charge his suspect, but I have no reason to believe that the prosecutor is a liar, do you?
Didn’t he say he had sent something to the McCanns but they denied it ?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8647 on: October 20, 2020, 03:55:07 PM »
Didn’t he say he had sent something to the McCanns but they denied it ?
Well we all know the McCanns are liars so what are you trying to say, that for once in their evil rotten lives they're telling the truth?*  Or maybe, just maybe HCW sent a letter that simply hadn't reached the McCanns at the time of the news report.  Nooooo, far too far fetched, I agree.

*Satire, mods, satire.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8648 on: October 20, 2020, 04:01:23 PM »
The most telling aspect of HCW's decision to 'out' CB is that he would not have been afforded the opportunity if he wasn't already in custody. So if we're dealing with 'facts', then HCW came in to possession of his 'evidence' much later. This can only reasonably be the jailhouse snitch, which I'm sure all prosecutors would avoid using if at all possible.
However this particular snitch provided something compelling, but not quite enough. I've said it before, there's very limited scope as to what this is.
So they then do what every decent prosecutor does, he doesn't just drop his snitch, he pumps him dry and at a certain tipping point this snitch will say just about anything if he thinks he's being believed.
This snitch provides more names of 'accomplices' and 'acquaintances', in the hope of time off, or favourable terms (despite it being illegal in Germany), who are subsequently, equally pumped for information until their eyes bleed - hence the searches.
If HCW had enough on CB now, after this protracted fishing expedition, he would have used it. There's nothing come to fruition, no irons in the CB fire and the secret caches of filth have run dry.

We're at an impasse. I bet HCW is popular with the people on the 12th Floor - his appendage is well and truly on the block.



Based on everything HCW has said the snitch is not the evidence he is holding back....based on the fact that the snitch and his commnets are in the public domain. I think its possible the evidence is on the memory sticks on the basis that HCW would not answer questions about them. I think all your observations are way off the amrk

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8649 on: October 20, 2020, 04:02:00 PM »
Didn’t he say he had sent something to the McCanns but they denied it ?

that misunderstanding has been explained

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8650 on: October 20, 2020, 04:03:23 PM »
Well we all know the McCanns are liars so what are you trying to say, that for once in their evil rotten lives they're telling the truth?*  Or maybe, just maybe HCW sent a letter that simply hadn't reached the McCanns at the time of the news report.  Nooooo, far too far fetched, I agree.

*Satire, mods, satire.

It seems HCW sent the letter via SY who didnt forward it.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8651 on: October 20, 2020, 04:16:16 PM »
You can't even define 'sceptic', never mind grasp the basics of the alerts. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.
I've proven beyond doubt with Cassella's most recent work that cadaver dogs are a useful tool when searching for vestiges of cadaverine. He endorses their use and includes the results in his theses.

its an opinion and clearly an opinion which shows you dont know the difference between an opinion and fact.

you have proved nothing....everyone accepts that the dogs are a  very useful tool when searching for vestiges of cadaverine from body parts. Cassella is on recpord as being quite scathing about uncorroborated alerts being regarded  as evidence. Looks like you need to do  a little more reading

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8652 on: October 20, 2020, 04:19:22 PM »


Based on everything HCW has said the snitch is not the evidence he is holding back....based on the fact that the snitch and his commnets are in the public domain. I think its possible the evidence is on the memory sticks on the basis that HCW would not answer questions about them. I think all your observations are way off the amrk
There's a surprise, Emperor.
You clearly missed the salient point: the snitch provided the memory card location. It's the only way. They didn't exhume themselves, the snitch knew exactly where to look. That was his ticket outta Dodge, or so he thought.
But they weren't quite the Golden Ticket they all thought they would be - compelling, but really, a conviction of more child porn charges were not going to cut it when he's already in Sing Sing for a decent stretch.
And does anyone really think that HCW or others didn't already have CB in or around Luz? This is the former Stasi, they had that information, they just can't join all the dots for a case, mainly because the snitch is a liar. He threw them a bone and then when they came back for me he fed them any old carp that he could come up with.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8653 on: October 20, 2020, 04:21:28 PM »
There's a surprise, Emperor.
You clearly missed the salient point: the snitch provided the memory card location. It's the only way. They didn't exhume themselves, the snitch knew exactly where to look. That was his ticket outta Dodge, or so he thought.
But they weren't quite the Golden Ticket they all thought they would be - compelling, but really, a conviction of more child porn charges were not going to cut it when he's already in Sing Sing for a decent stretch.
And does anyone really think that HCW or others didn't already have CB in or around Luz? This is the former Stasi, they had that information, they just can't join all the dots for a case, mainly because the snitch is a liar. He threw them a bone and then when they came back for me he fed them any old carp that he could come up with.

If you call me emperor... I will call you idiot....deal or no deal..idiot

Offline The General

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8654 on: October 20, 2020, 04:22:05 PM »
its an opinion and clearly an opinion which shows you dont know the difference between an opinion and fact.

you have proved nothing....everyone accepts that the dogs are a  very useful tool when searching for vestiges of cadaverine from body parts. Cassella is on recpord as being quite scathing about uncorroborated alerts being regarded  as evidence. Looks like you need to do  a little more reading
No it doesn't. It looks like you need to. He was very complimentary and even cited their use as being bang on the money. His recent input in to cadaverine soil transference attests to how the dogs were used successfully.
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