Wandering Off Topic

[The General]

If you call me emperor... I will call you idiot....deal or no deal..idiot

Deal.

[The General]

It seems HCW sent the letter via SY who didnt forward it.

What a lovely gesture, withholding potentially vital evidence in the search for their missing daughter. Maybe to save them from more heartache and just hope they never expose themselves to any media report ever again.
Unless SY know only too well that CB didn't do jack.

[Mr Gray]

No it doesn't. It looks like you need to. He was very complimentary and even cited their use as being bang on the money. His recent input in to cadaverine soil transference attests to how the dogs were used successfully.

no one doubts the dogs ability to detect cadaverine...if it present. Cassella was dismisive about uncoroborrated alerts  ..... fact

[The General]

no one doubts the dogs ability to detect cadaverine...if it present. Cassella was dismisive about uncoroborrated alerts  ..... fact

He's not dismissive, he's stating fact. But it transpires that the incredibly unreliable dogs are actually pretty sharp and corroborated or not, a cadaver dog alerting is a very good indicator of vestiges or presence of cadaverine / cadaver. He's watched them first hand and, on the most recent occasion, the body was actually discovered several feet under overburden. There's plenty of other occasions where there is no body, but the vestiges remain - he also knows that's the truth.

[am I allowed to extend 'Emperor' to 'Empmeister'?]

[Mr Gray]

He's not dismissive, he's stating fact. But it transpires that the incredibly unreliable dogs are actually pretty sharp and corroborated or not, a cadaver dog alerting is a very good indicator of vestiges or presence of cadaverine / cadaver. He's watched them first hand and, on the most recent occasion, the body was actually discovered several feet under overburden. There's plenty of other occasions where there is no body, but the vestiges remain - he also knows that's the truth.

[am I allowed to extend 'Emperor' to 'Empmeister'?]

How many bodies did Eddie find in five years prior to Luz...as I said...no one disagrees with their ability to detect cadaver odour...it's what happens if there is none present which needs to be answerred..,and dogs being repeatedly called back when there's none present

[The General]

How many bodies did Eddie find in five years prior to Luz...as I said...no one disagrees with their ability to detect cadaver odour...it's what happens if there is none present which needs to be answerred..,and dogs being repeatedly called back when there's none present

So we have proof of concept and proof of reliability.
Your beef is with Martin Grime's technique.
He can't invent cadaverine and I'm highly dubious as to the concept of a man dedicating his life to training the infernal hounds, only to compromise his life's work and vocation on camera (with the eyes of the world on him) to somehow spur his dogs to alert. What for, financial gain, as you have alluded to in the past? Really? He was already preeminent in the field; he was, and still is, the go-to man.
It's weak, man, really weak.
His only mistake was in not cross-checking and getting another cadaver dog in - but then he'd never been impeached in such a manner up to that time.

Edit: and there's a really good reason why Eddie didn't alert a great deal in 5 years; it's the relative paucity of murder victims. Which is why he's so sought after in the good ole US&A.

[Mr Gray]

So we have proof of concept and proof of reliability.
Your beef is with Martin Grime's technique.
He can't invent cadaverine and I'm highly dubious as to the concept of a man dedicating his life to training the infernal hounds, only to compromise his life's work and vocation on camera (with the eyes of the world on him) to somehow spur his dogs to alert. What for, financial gain, as you have alluded to in the past? Really? He was already preeminent in the field; he was, and still is, the go-to man.
It's weak, man, really weak.
His only mistake was in not cross-checking and getting another cadaver dog in - but then he'd never been impeached in such a manner up to that time.

Edit: and there's a really good reason why Eddie didn't alert a great deal in 5 years; it's the relative paucity of murder victims. Which is why he's so sought after in the good ole US&A.

The dogs activity in Luz played a part in Grime getting a 90k contract in Jersey...he used the video to convince Harper of his skills.

I won't bother answering any more points..it's s waste if time. If HCW has proof of Maddie's death at the hands of an abductor then that really questions the alerts. I'm sure a suitable explanation will be forthcoming

[The General]

The dogs activity in Luz played a part in Grime getting a 90k contract in Jersey...he used the video to convince Harper of his skills.

I won't bother answering any more points..it's s waste if time. If HCW has proof of Maddie's death at the hands of an abductor then that really questions the alerts. I'm sure a suitable explanation will be forthcoming

Is that it? 90k feeds his dogs for 6 months and keeps the lights on. He can only be in one place at a time. He hasn't got a puppy farm churning out little Keelas and Eddies. He's not minted, he looks like any normal jobbing contractor.
Who doesn't use their CV  / testimonials to procure work? If you're a spark with a few lads and a van, of course you're going to take photos of your cable containment and neat terminations on cabinets.

[Mr Gray]

If HCW has evidence of Maddie's death at the hands of an abductor then the alerts are discredited..
Just have to wait and see..

That's when my psychic analogy comes in...as people try and come up with an explanation to explain them

[G-Unit]

Based on everything HCW has said the snitch is not the evidence he is holding back....based on the fact that the snitch and his commnets are in the public domain. I think its possible the evidence is on the memory sticks on the basis that HCW would not answer questions about them. I think all your observations are way off the amrk

If there was a planted informer in jail we don't know who he was or what he said.

[G-Unit]

Sneaked In?  How very peculiar.  But it does rather prove my point.

What was your point? That no supporters are members of CMOMM? You are wrong.

[Erngath]

What was your point? That no supporters are members of CMOMM? You are wrong.

They must be as quiet as church mice.

[Mr Gray]

What was your point? That no supporters are members of CMOMM? You are wrong.

Cite

[Mr Gray]

If there was a planted informer in jail we don't know who he was or what he said.

what evidence do you have of a planted informer.....do you believe thereis one
we dont know what HCW's material/concrete evidence is...It would be more sensible to wait than dismiss it out of hand.

[faithlilly]

They must be as quiet as church mice.

And ?