Wandering Off Topic

[kizzy]

I discovered it as a newbie to Madeleine's case but very soon recognised it as a slick but very sick forum.  You couldn't have paid me to join them.

What is sick B is that you think posters are beneath contempt because their opinion is different from yours.

Officially at this moment in time, no one knows what happened to Maddie yet you condemn peoples beliefs.

Simply because they are different to yours, which IMO could also be described as sick.

[Mr Gray]

Well, you obviously venture there to take time to read it  - even if only occasionally.

Shows you have some interest.

Just because someone looks at a site doesnt give it any credibility. Its interesting to see what the crackpots latest ideas are

[kizzy]

The dogs activity in Luz played a part in Grime getting a 90k contract in Jersey...he used the video to convince Harper of his skills.

I won't bother answering any more points..it's s waste if time. If HCW has proof of Maddie's death at the hands of an abductor then that really questions the alerts. I'm sure a suitable explanation will be forthcoming

The dogs activity in Luz played a part in Grime getting a 90k contract in Jersey...he used the video to convince Harper of his skills.

O.M.G. doesn't that tell you something D he must have had complete faith in the credibility of his videos

Otherwise, what would he have done if Maddie had been found where would his skills have been then.

Seems he was totally confident in his dogs IMO.

[Mr Gray]

What is sick B is that you think posters are beneath contempt because their opinion is different from yours.

Officially at this moment in time, no one knows what happened to Maddie yet you condemn peoples beliefs.

Simply because they are different to yours, which IMO could also be described as sick.

Its  a matter of looking at where the evidence points. the fact that CB is the prime suspect of an abduction is significant. You remind me of thos ewho calim corona virus is  ahoax...totally midguided

[kizzy]

Just because someone looks at a site doesnt give it any credibility. Its interesting to see what the crackpots latest ideas are

Its interesting to see what the crackpots latest ideas are

Well, I reckon they could think the same if they occasionally look on here lol.

[Mr Gray]

The dogs activity in Luz played a part in Grime getting a 90k contract in Jersey...he used the video to convince Harper of his skills.

O.M.G. doesn't that tell you something D he must have had complete faith in the credibility of his videos

Otherwise, what would he have done if Maddie had been found where would his skills have been then.

Seems he was totally confident in his dogs IMO.

Grime has a financial interest in his search dogs ...Grime has made it clear the alerts have no evidential vlue...do you think hes lying.

Grime has not claimed the alerts ahve any connection to Maddie so if abduction is proven...as it may well be..grime has plenty of reasons why his alerts were not to MM

[Mr Gray]

Its interesting to see what the crackpots latest ideas are

Well, I reckon they could think the same if they occasionally look on here lol.

They probbaly would. Crackpot conspiracy theorists think normal poeple are misguided...and thats exactly what posters on CMOMM are

[kizzy]

Grime has a financial interest in his search dogs ...Grime has made it clear the alerts have no evidential vlue...do you think hes lying.

Grime has not claimed the alerts ahve any connection to Maddie so if abduction is proven...as it may well be..grime has plenty of reasons why his alerts were not to MM

Yet he used the video as you claimed to show his skills.

IMO he must have had faith in them as what would his skills have been then if maddie had been found alive and well.

[G-Unit]

Just because someone looks at a site doesnt give it any credibility. Its interesting to see what the crackpots latest ideas are

Does joining the forum give it credibility, do you think?

[Snowgirl]

Its  a matter of looking at where the evidence points. the fact that CB is the prime suspect of an abduction is significant. You remind me of thos ewho calim corona virus is  ahoax...totally midguided

  Has there been an official announcement  that CB is the chief suspect ? Where is this  evidence that points to him ?

[Brietta]

What is sick B is that you think posters are beneath contempt because their opinion is different from yours.

Officially at this moment in time, no one knows what happened to Maddie yet you condemn peoples beliefs.

Simply because they are different to yours, which IMO could also be described as sick.

What an impertinent post.

I will thank you for not presuming to tell me what I think in future and concentrate on the content of my posts and not your amateur attempts at psychoanalysing me or any other member come to that.  Thankyou

[Brietta]

Just because someone looks at a site doesnt give it any credibility. Its interesting to see what the crackpots latest ideas are

That is a fact.  Observation is neither condoning or accepting. 

I just find myself unable to deal with such levels of unadulterated stupidity and malice en masse.

[Brietta]

Does joining the forum give it credibility, do you think?

Did you manage to find a couple of posts from a supporter to C&P to substantiate your claim or are you still looking?

[kizzy]

What an impertinent post.

I will thank you for not presuming to tell me what I think in future and concentrate on the content of my posts and not your amateur attempts at psychoanalysing me or any other member come to that.  Thankyou

IMO it's you that called another forum sick ., that just happens to be anti mcc that's all.

psychoanalyze you, not at all I think your posts try and do a poor job at doing that B

[faithlilly]

Please note the paragraphs I have bolded for your attention.  I found them quite apt.


The case of Brenda Leyland and the McCanns is a thoroughly modern tale of internet lawlessness
You can’t accuse a TV reporter of ‘hounding’ someone who is guilty of trolling
Grace Dent
Tuesday 07 October 2014

The circumstances around the death of Brenda Leyland, whose body was found in a Leicester hotel room this weekend, are all at once sad, complex, divisive and thoroughly modern.

Ms. Leyland, I cannot help but feel, is yet another victim of what I’ve termed “the internet wild west era” in which we’re living. The rules of civility are yet to be established. We’re naught but electronic guinea pigs. One man’s “troll” is another man’s prophet of truth. One woman’s systematic campaign of abuse is another woman’s brave battle to be heard.

Ms Leyland was doorstepped last week by Martin Brunt from Sky News over her alleged obsessive and relentless Twtter campaign to expose what she felt was “the truth” about Madeleine McCann’s parents Gerry and Kate.

A Twitter account by the handle @sweepyface had tweeted over 4,300 times supporting its firm - albeit incorrect - view that the McCanns are implicated nefariously in their daughter’s disappearance. The account’s contempt and anger for the McCanns was multi-faceted, inexhaustible, and at times breathtakingly unpleasant.

Mr Brunt took pains in his report to say that @sweepyface was not the worst offender. This I believe, as over many years I’ve noticed the anti-McCann conspiracy theory lobby to be some of the most furious, combative and unsettling message-propellers one might come across.

The McCann conspiracy theory is the perfect tinderbox for internet trolls. It involves a child’s disappearance, a possible paedophile bogeyman, a £2m fund with accusations of misuse, plus handily placed daft foreigners open to accusations of fecklessness and corruption. But more than this the McCann case appeals to firmly entrenched class war tensions that these evil middle class folk are able to pull strings or use their money or power to cover something up. I cannot remember blame and spite directed at Jamie Bulger’s mother or Sarah Payne’s grandparents alleging that it was flaws in their attention which had led to utter woe. In these cases, empathy and compassion were abundant.

Yet there is something about doctors eating patatas bravas within metres of sleeping children which drove Twitter accounts like @sweepyface to a bleak place. The @sweepyface account begged for attention endlessly - from like-minded people, from detractors, from journalists and from TV people. Matthew Wright received many tweets, Martin Brunt also – and with this in mind Brunt approached Ms Leyland to allot her just this - attention.

But, as I say, we’re in the wild west. While @sweepyface was desperate for exposure, Ms Leyland did not welcome it at all. While @sweepyface may have been in her element flinging around accusations, gossip and provoking ill-will, the real life Ms. Leyland met Mr Brunt’s request for a comment with a firm No and an attempt to disappear into her car.

Mr. Brunt is now being accused by some sections of “hounding” Ms. Leyland to her death. This seems extreme. Reporters have been doorstepping people and requesting answers on British television for the past 50 years. Are we now saying that in this new internet age, any person who draws attention to themselves vehemently but anonymously online is out of bounds for reporters?

Are we saying that we must accept that internet users working anonymously to spread misery are most probably mentally delicate and fuelled on their own shortcomings, so let’s leave be? Should a person's privacy be respected even if their modus operandi is disrespecting privacy? The only certainty this incident has underlined is we have no strong idea how to tackle harmful internet unpleasantness, aside from “ignore”.

There should be more help, support, understanding and escape routes offered to people living angrily behind keyboards. Their numbers are growing. In our ever web-dependent, fresh-air lacking, screen-chained world, we’re all more powerful, more superhuman behind our laptops in bed at midnight than we ever could be in real life.

And being an internet idiot, even just momentarily, is in all our sights. When we’re safely miles away from our target, we feel righteous, war-like, invincible and remorseless over our ability to wound. Ms. Leyland’s meeting with Mr Brunt was a reminder that when human beings propel anger electronically, the last thing they want is to be greeted with is a human face.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/case-brenda-leyland-and-mccanns-thoroughly-modern-tale-internet-lawlessness-9778262.html

An opinion piece by Grace Dent proves.......?