Wandering Off Topic

[faithlilly]

I don't necessarily agree with that sentiment - bearing in mind that 'it takes two to tango'.

It does indeed and I have been condemning of the west’s approach to this situation too but atm Putin is the only leader threatening nuclear destruction.

[Brietta]

I honestly don't think you can compare Putin with Biden.  Biden has not threatened to nuke us all for starters, nor has he ordered the invasion of a sovereign state.  A more apt comparison might be George W Bush, aided and abetted by Tony Blair though....

Last time round Kennedy played brinksmanship to the nth degree at the thought of Russia having a foothold in independent Cuba.

I think the Russians are equally as sensitive to our troops having a locus in a neighbouring independent state - and I would not gamble on Putin being the only Russian thinking that way.

[Brietta]

I think in striving to do what he thought was the right thing, he did a very wrong thing.  The death and misery inflicted on innocent Iraqis was no different to that which is presently being inflicted on the Ukranians, and the reasons for it similar, driven by IMO paranoia and muscle-flexing and a desire to lash out and punish.

To my great shame I had forgotten this - but there are those who never will forget what great powers are capable of and I don't think America's hands are entirely clean when it comes to that.

Al-Amiriyya: Once upon a bombing in Iraq
Iraqis still remember the more than 400 civilians the US military killed in a single bombing in Baghdad in 1991.

Sinan Antoon
Sinan Antoon is an Iraqi poet and novelist. His latest novel is The Book of Collateral Damage.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/2/13/al-amiriyya-once-upon-a-bombing-in-iraq

[barrier]

Not sure on the source but we must hope its right.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-interested-reaching-agreement-with-ukraine-talks-says-negotiator-2022-02-28/


Russia interested in reaching agreement with Ukraine at talks, says negotiator

[Vertigo Swirl]

"Russia blames Liz Truss for nuclear threat" - lol, I know she's not everyone's cup of tea, but seriously?!

[Mr Gray]

To my great shame I had forgotten this - but there are those who never will forget what great powers are capable of and I don't think America's hands are entirely clean when it comes to that.

Al-Amiriyya: Once upon a bombing in Iraq
Iraqis still remember the more than 400 civilians the US military killed in a single bombing in Baghdad in 1991.

Sinan Antoon
Sinan Antoon is an Iraqi poet and novelist. His latest novel is The Book of Collateral Damage.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/2/13/al-amiriyya-once-upon-a-bombing-in-iraq

UK and the US. Bombed Iraq into submission. Putin isn't doing that he wants to have the support of the Ukrainian people. He's sending tanks and soldiers in with no air support. They are sitting ducks for the Ukrainian drones. His tactics are very strange

[barrier]

"Russia blames Liz Truss for nuclear threat" - lol, I know she's not everyone's cup of tea, but seriously?!

Takes the heat off of Boris with party gate.

[faithlilly]

Takes the heat off of Boris with party gate.

Well it worked for Margaret Thatcher with the Falklands.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Takes the heat off of Boris with party gate.

I think it rather increases the heat - on all of us!!  But who knew the Russians were so sensitive to the witterings of Liz Truss.  I mean no one here takes her very seriously and yet the Russkies are threatening to nuke us because she said something that upset them - such snowflakes!

[jassi]

To my great shame I had forgotten this - but there are those who never will forget what great powers are capable of and I don't think America's hands are entirely clean when it comes to that.

Al-Amiriyya: Once upon a bombing in Iraq
Iraqis still remember the more than 400 civilians the US military killed in a single bombing in Baghdad in 1991.

Sinan Antoon
Sinan Antoon is an Iraqi poet and novelist. His latest novel is The Book of Collateral Damage.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/2/13/al-amiriyya-once-upon-a-bombing-in-iraq

I do think the partial failure of the Russian invasion was because initially  they were trying to avoid a lot of physical damage and civilian casualties as their intention was to integrate Ukraine back into the Motherland.

If they had followed the American form of warfare, they would have bombed the shit out of the country long before they sent soldiers across the border and to the devil with the consequences.

Clearly this strategy has failed.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I do think the partial failure of the Russian invasion was because initially  they were trying to avoid a lot of physical damage and civilian casualties as their intention was to integrate Ukraine back into the Motherland.

If they had followed the American form of warfare, they would have bombed the shit out of the country long before they sent soldiers across the border and to the devil with the consequences.

Clearly this strategy has failed.

That's not actually what happened in the second Iraq war though.

[Vertigo Swirl]

"Swiss officials have concluded that Russia is unlikely to use its nuclear weapons against the West in a conflict over Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine, Defence Minister Viola Amherd said on Monday.

The comments came after Switzerland adopted EU sanctions against Russia.

“We are, of course, looking at all scenarios, but our investigations indicate that the likelihood of these nuclear weapons being used is low,” she told a news conference in Bern".

[barrier]

I think it rather increases the heat - on all of us!!  But who knew the Russians were so sensitive to the witterings of Liz Truss.  I mean no one here takes her very seriously and yet the Russkies are threatening to nuke us because she said something that upset them - such snowflakes!

I think we can forgive them for that,

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think we can forgive them for that,

why?  Creating worldwide fear of imminent nuclear annihilation because Liz Truss was nasty about them?  I'm not forgiving them for that, nor anything else they have done recently such as killing dozens of civilians in rocket strikes today.  Absolute b........s.   

[Miss Taken Identity]

Well it worked for Margaret Thatcher with the Falklands.

and Tony bliar