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[Wonderfulspam]

Mr Smith said he was 60-80 % sure it was Gerry by the way he carried Sean off the plane.


Do you honestly believe that was the only reason ...wow

He described it seems -  Maddie and  gmc by description ...he reported it next day and made the statement 5/5/2007

He said carrying child upright....it then convinced him 80% when he saw his mannerisms coming of plane.

Smith said it wasn't.

Robert Murat 0% - Christian Brueckner 0% -  gmc 80%



? Having already seen various photographs of MADELEINE and televised images, states that the child who was carried by the individual could have been her. He cannot state this as fact but is convinced that it could have been MADELEINE, also the opinion shared by his family.


 He only became aware of the disappearance of the child the next morning, through his daughter, L*****, in Ireland who had sent him a message or called him regarding what had happened. At this point he thought that MADELEINE could have been the child he saw with the individual.
? Regarding the description of the individual who carried the child he states that: he was Caucasian, around 175 to 180m in height. He appeared to be about 35/40 years old. He had an average build, a bit on the thin side. His hair was short, in a basic male cut, brown in colour. He cannot state if it was dark or lighter in tone. He did not wear glasses and had no beard or moustache. He did not notice any other relevant details partly due to the fact that the lighting was not very good.
? He was wearing cream or beige-coloured cloth trousers in a classic cut. He did not see his shoes. He did not notice the body clothing and cannot describe the colour or fashion of the same.
? He states that the child was female, about four years of age as she was similar to his granddaughter of the same age. She was a child of normal build, about a metre in height though not being absolutely certain of that as she was being carried. The child has blonde medium-hued hair, without being very light. Her skin was very white, typical of a Brit. He did not notice her eyes as she was asleep and her eyelids were closed.
? She was wearing light-coloured pyjamas. He cannot state with certainty the colour. She was not covered by any wrap or blanket. He cannot confirm whether she was barefoot but in his group, they spoke about the child having no cover on her feet.
? Urged, he states that the individual did not appear to be a tourist. He cannot explain this further. It was simply his perception given the individual's clothing. He states that the individual carried the child in his arms, with her head laying on the individual's left shoulder, that being to the right of the deponent. He adds that he did not hold the child in a comfortable position, suggesting [the carrying] not being habitual.

You're 100% right. No sightings of Brueckner, & definitely not a confirmed sighting by Tasmin Sillence, as some gullible retarded moron had claimed the other day. Nope. There's only Gerry, & that's probably because the McCanns did it.

[Wonderfulspam]

Wle you will likely finish up being Sectioned.

No we've been through this. At least two to three doctors would have to deem me a danger to myself or others. I'm not a danger to anyone but I can't say the same about the McCanns, where kids are concerned.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think Spam's enjoying his attacks on old women a little bit too much, a bit like his hero Bruckner perhaps?

[Wonderfulspam]

I think Spam's enjoying his attacks on old women a little bit too much, a bit like his hero Bruckner perhaps?

He only raped one old woman. And she was stupid enough to have left her door/window unlocked, so she was kind of asking for it really. Me personally, I lock my doors because I don't fancy being raped.

[Wonderfulspam]

I mean, why else would you go to bed at night leaving doors & windows unlocked unless you were hoping someone would come in?  Doors & windows come equipped with locks. Everyone know this. But no, DM & HB ACTIVELY CHOSE to go to bed without locking theirs doors. Now, either we have to accept that they were both really stupid & didn't understand the purpose of locks, or, they wanted a nocturnal visitor. I haven't once heard Hazel B say "I was really stupid & left the door unlocked" so we can rule that out, which means, maybe she secretly wanted to be raped. Until she admits that she made a mistake, I can only conclude she done it on purpose.

[Wonderfulspam]

I saw in the news today that the BBC is making a drama based on the case of Sarah Everard. I'll bet my house on the fact that the BBC won't mention or will significantly downplay the fact that Sarah was out breaking the COVID lock down laws, when she was falsely arrested. I regard this as in insult to all law abiding people who didn't break the lock down laws & didn't get raped & murdered as a consequence. We live in an age where 'victims' have all their faults, sins & flagrant law breaking excused while law abiding people recieve no credit for not being a burden on the police service by taking responsibility for themselves & not getting raped or murdered as a result of their own actions.

[Wonderfulspam]

We reward failiure in society today. The McCanns have been rewarded with celebrity, book & documetntry deals & unimaginable wealth, sent in donations by gullible old people, when they KNEW the risks of leaving young children unattended. And do they accept any responsibility for their daughters demise? No. Not a bit of it. All the responsibility gets shifted to the child abducting predatory paedophile who was just doing his job. The media never take the McCanns to task for their outright child neglect. It doesn't set a very good example does it. If anything it incites parents to be negligent in the hope they'll gain as much as the McCanns have.

[kizzy]

Mr Smith did not report the sighting the next day.  Despite believing that the child might have been Madeleine he and his family waited three weeks before reporting it.  That does not show him or them in a very good light imo.

That does not show him or them in a very good light imo.



you believe witnesses who come forward 10 year later when it is regarding C B.

Martin Smith is a respectful member of the public who did not do this lightly ..it caused him a lot of stress.

Knowing it was gmc ..................100% telling the truth.

He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

But never the less he reported it ....IMO.. 100% is absolutely certain -  80% highly certain - 50% not sure.


Text: Reported that he passed a male carrying a child in Praia da Luz the night Maddie went missing. Went and made a statement to Portugal police in Portimao on 26th of May and returned to the U.K. Is saying that after seeing McCANNS on the news on 9th of September when they returned to the U.K.

He has not slept and is worried sick. He states he was watching the 10 pm news on BBC and saw the McCANNS getting off the plane and coming down the steps. He states it was like watching an action replay of the night he saw the male carrying the child back in Portugal.

 He states the way Gerry was carrying his twin triggered something in his head. It was exactly the same way and look of the other male seen the night Maddy went missing.

He also watched ITV news and SKY news and inferred it looked like the same person both times carrying the children. Is asking a member of the OP Task Force to ring him back. He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

[Wonderfulspam]

That does not show him or them in a very good light imo.

No, it doesn't put you in a good light....trying to twist things.

you believe witnesses who come forward 10 year later when it is regarding C B.

Martin Smith is a respectful member of the public who did not do this lightly ..it caused him a lot of stress.

Knowing it was gmc ..................100% telling the truth.

He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

But never the less he reported it ....IMO.. 100% is absolutely certain -  80% highly certain - 50% not sure.


Text: Reported that he passed a male carrying a child in Praia da Luz the night Maddie went missing. Went and made a statement to Portugal police in Portimao on 26th of May and returned to the U.K. Is saying that after seeing McCANNS on the news on 9th of September when they returned to the U.K.

He has not slept and is worried sick. He states he was watching the 10 pm news on BBC and saw the McCANNS getting off the plane and coming down the steps. He states it was like watching an action replay of the night he saw the male carrying the child back in Portugal.

 He states the way Gerry was carrying his twin triggered something in his head. It was exactly the same way and look of the other male seen the night Maddy went missing.

He also watched ITV news and SKY news and inferred it looked like the same person both times carrying the children. Is asking a member of the OP Task Force to ring him back. He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

Good point. Helge Busching witnessed a detailed credible confession to Madeleine's abduction & murder. He claims he went to the police but was ignored. It seems he then decided to keep this very credible confession to himself, for 9 long years, but he is excused. Meanwhile, the Smith family don't come forward for 4 short weeks & they are completely maligned.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That does not show him or them in a very good light imo.

No, it doesn't put you in a good light....trying to twist things.

you believe witnesses who come forward 10 year later when it is regarding C B.

Martin Smith is a respectful member of the public who did not do this lightly ..it caused him a lot of stress.

Knowing it was gmc ..................100% telling the truth.

He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

But never the less he reported it ....IMO.. 100% is absolutely certain -  80% highly certain - 50% not sure.


Text: Reported that he passed a male carrying a child in Praia da Luz the night Maddie went missing. Went and made a statement to Portugal police in Portimao on 26th of May and returned to the U.K. Is saying that after seeing McCANNS on the news on 9th of September when they returned to the U.K.

He has not slept and is worried sick. He states he was watching the 10 pm news on BBC and saw the McCANNS getting off the plane and coming down the steps. He states it was like watching an action replay of the night he saw the male carrying the child back in Portugal.

 He states the way Gerry was carrying his twin triggered something in his head. It was exactly the same way and look of the other male seen the night Maddy went missing.

He also watched ITV news and SKY news and inferred it looked like the same person both times carrying the children. Is asking a member of the OP Task Force to ring him back. He was with a group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite shaken and worried whilst speaking to me.

I am trying to twist things??!  You were the one making a completely false statement that the Smiths gave their statements two days after Madeleine disappeared.  That is twisting things, why did you blatantly lie about it?Furthermore you are twisting things when you say Smith ?knew? it was Gerry McCann.  He did no such thing.  He thought it might be but he wasn?t certain.  The majority of his family who saw the man didn?t think it was Gerry either.  Tell me, if you had seen what the Smiths had seen and then woken up the next morning to hear that a little girl had gone missing would you have waited 3 weeks to inform the police?  If so, why?

[Wonderfulspam]

I am trying to twist things??!  You were the one making a completely false statement that the Smiths gave their statements two days after Madeleine disappeared.  That is twisting things, why did you blatantly lie about it?Furthermore you are twisting things when you say Smith ?knew? it was Gerry McCann.  He did no such thing.  He thought it might be but he wasn?t certain.  The majority of his family who saw the man didn?t think it was Gerry either.  Tell me, if you had seen what the Smiths had seen and then woken up the next morning to hear that a little girl had gone missing would you have waited 3 weeks to inform the police?  If so, why?

They didn't believe they were witnessing an abduction. They didn't know what they were witnessing. Smith said he thought it was a father & child & so weren't suspicious. So he was probably right in the first instance really. It was just innocent Gerrylike button trousers man, out for an evening stroll with his typically British child.

[Vertigo Swirl]

from Martin Smith?s statement given 23 days after Madeleine went missing

Urged, states that when he passed this individual it would have been around 22H00, and at the time he was completely unaware that a child had disappeared. He only became aware of the disappearance of the child the next morning, through his daughter, L*****, in Ireland who had sent him a message or called him regarding what had happened. At this point he thought that MADELEINE could have been the child he saw with the individual.


He then waited 22 days before contacting the police.

[kizzy]

I am trying to twist things??!  You were the one making a completely false statement that the Smiths gave their statements two days after Madeleine disappeared.  That is twisting things, why did you blatantly lie about it?Furthermore you are twisting things when you say Smith ?knew? it was Gerry McCann.  He did no such thing.  He thought it might be but he wasn?t certain.  The majority of his family who saw the man didn?t think it was Gerry either.  Tell me, if you had seen what the Smiths had seen and then woken up the next morning to hear that a little girl had gone missing would you have waited 3 weeks to inform the police?  If so, why?

Apology for using the word twist my bad.---wrong date [I thought I had deleted The twist bit but will do so now]

It proves though Martin smith is a cautious man and didn't want to really get involved but knew what he saw.

Also the flyer of maddie she looked about 2 year old  what they would have seen till they saw how she looked for real on tv when they got home and contacted police.

The family all agreed it looked like Maddie

 
He cannot state this as fact but is convinced that it could have been MADELEINE, also the opinion shared by his family.

   

also the rare trousers wore by gmcc .......first picture with buttons


https://www.google.com/search?q=gerry+mccann+beige+trousers&rlz=1C1UEAD_en-GBGB1101GB1101&oq=gerry+m

[Wonderfulspam]

from Martin Smith?s statement given 23 days after Madeleine went missing

Urged, states that when he passed this individual it would have been around 22H00, and at the time he was completely unaware that a child had disappeared. He only became aware of the disappearance of the child the next morning, through his daughter, L*****, in Ireland who had sent him a message or called him regarding what had happened. At this point he thought that MADELEINE could have been the child he saw with the individual.


He then waited 22 days before contacting the police.

At the time, Jane Tanner was claiming she had witnessed the abduction.  Maybe that put doubt in Smiths mind. Anyway. At least he didn't wait 9 years like the witness you favour more.

[kizzy]

from Martin Smith?s statement given 23 days after Madeleine went missing

Urged, states that when he passed this individual it would have been around 22H00, and at the time he was completely unaware that a child had disappeared. He only became aware of the disappearance of the child the next morning, through his daughter, L*****, in Ireland who had sent him a message or called him regarding what had happened. At this point he thought that MADELEINE could have been the child he saw with the individual.


He then waited 22 days before contacting the police.

That is the photo the mccs put out......why do you think that

https://littlemisscurious121.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/img_2779.jpg


Its whe they saw  how maddie really looked on TV  and contacted the police