Wandering Off Topic

[Wonderfulspam]

Apology for using the word twist my bad.---wrong date [I thought I had deleted The twist bit but will do so now]

It proves though Martin smith is a cautious man and didn't want to really get involved but knew what he saw.

Also the flyer of maddie she looked about 2 year old  what they would have seen till they saw how she looked for real on tv when they got home and contacted police.

The family all agreed it looked like Maddie

 
He cannot state this as fact but is convinced that it could have been MADELEINE, also the opinion shared by his family.

   

also the rare trousers wore by gmcc .......first picture with buttons


https://www.google.com/search?q=gerry+mccann+beige+trousers&rlz=1C1UEAD_en-GBGB1101GB1101&oq=gerry+m

It's just a terribly unfortunate coincidence Kizzy & nothing more. No. Just because the Gerrylike abductor happened to own a pair of trousers similar to Gerry?s, no it really doesn't prove anything. Nothing to see here. There's nothing in it. Whereas, Brueckner had the audacity to simply exist on May 3rd. Therefore it's obviously much more likely he did it.

[Wonderfulspam]

Anyway. I'm just thankful that, prior to Madeleine?s disappearance, & every day of his life thereafter, that Brueckner opted to stop going around drugging & snatching kids from holiday apartments. Even though it was his favourite thing & fantasy & he was really good at it by never getting caught. No. It seems just one successful abduction was enough for Brueckner & for that we should all be grateful. Because I'm not sure I could stomach the stench of another McCann like case going on in tandem with this one.

[Wonderfulspam]

This has always puzzled me. Re-registering a car doesn't make it disappear and the length of time it must've took to go through the process would almost certainly be weeks rather than hours. There's no advantage to someone fleeing a scene is my point, apart from potentially financial.
I dismiss this as irrelevant for that reason.

It's a complete red herring. Registering a car in someone else's name is utterly pointless if you're on the VC5 (equivalent)
Automatic registration readers bring up a full list of previous owners. Certainly in the UK they do anyway & so almost certainly in Germany. If the police run a number plate check, prior owners are listed. I know this from experience being stopped by police in a car I had just purchased. This was in the early 2000's. They ran my plate before stopping me. I explained I had just bought the car & so my name wouldn't be registered yet & I had to present my proof of ownership & insurance at my local police station a few days later.

[Vertigo Swirl]

For anyone under the impression that the Smiths family were discouraged to come forward by reports of Jane Tanner?s signting:

?The first media reports regarding a man seen carrying a child on the night of Madeleine McCann's disappearance surfaced in the media on May 25?26, 2007. ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

That is the photo the mccs put out......why do you think that

https://littlemisscurious121.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/img_2779.jpg


Its whe they saw  how maddie really looked on TV  and contacted the police

The Smiths did not see the child?s face at all so would not have been put off by that photograph.  Smith even said he thought the child might have been Madeleine the very next day but still waited 22 days to go to the police.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Apology for using the word twist my bad.---wrong date [I thought I had deleted The twist bit but will do so now]

It proves though Martin smith is a cautious man and didn't want to really get involved but knew what he saw.

Also the flyer of maddie she looked about 2 year old  what they would have seen till they saw how she looked for real on tv when they got home and contacted police.

The family all agreed it looked like Maddie

 
He cannot state this as fact but is convinced that it could have been MADELEINE, also the opinion shared by his family.

   

also the rare trousers wore by gmcc .......first picture with buttons


https://www.google.com/search?q=gerry+mccann+beige+trousers&rlz=1C1UEAD_en-GBGB1101GB1101&oq=gerry+m

Rare trousers?  Can you shed more light on the rarity value of these trousers?  I?ve already mentioned that both myself and my ex had trousers like this when we went on early family holidays together which you could roll up with tabs that you secured to buttons on the side.  I think we got them in Tesco??s (yes we were a very stylish couple).

[Joe Blogs]

I was just thinking, if Smithman was Gerry, and Maddie had died the day before hand, it would be imperative for the McCanns that Maddie was never found, else time of death would be established and prove they were lying.
Still, after a few days, time of death would be harder to establish I suppose!
So, as long as the body wasn't found for a few days the McCanns could claim the alleged intruder was responsible?
But if Maddie happened to be found in a bin the next day, then the autopsy would clearly show that she died long before the McCanns claimed she was abducted.
How long was Gerry missing after the alarm was raised? He certainly didn't have time to bury Maddie did he?
Besides, sniffer dogs would have found her right away.
Could she have been thrown in the ocean, did he have time to go down to the harbour? Wouldn't the body just wash up? Did they take in divers and search the harbour?
Is this why the bin theory started? because there was very few other options possible?
Thing is, it seems a bit risky raising the alarm and then dumping the body? if Maddie died the day before, why not dispose of her the night before?
Still, that would be even worse for the McCanns if the body just happened to be spotted in the rubbish tip and they hadn't even reported her missing?
I suppose if guilty, then the McCanns had to take a calculated risk over time of death and the possibility of Maddies body being found?
Thing is, Maddie had far more chance of being spotted in a rubbish dump if she wasn't wrapped up in plastic bags or such? Maybe Gerry had his tennis bag with him to put her in before placing her in the bin? Still, the Smiths would have noticed this surely?
Oh well, just another silly ramble!

[Vertigo Swirl]

The bin theory was invented to explain how Gerry could dispose of a body quickly without it ever being discovered.  There is never any attempt to suggest precisely where this bin was or why Gerry would choose the most visible, illuminated and likely to be populated with diners and drinkers part of town instead of heading away from town to find a quieter place with a bin. 

Also, I?ve no idea either why Gerry would risk moving the body twice - why not simply leave it on the wasteland he allegedly dumped it on first?  What difference would a few hundred metres make as to whether or not he dunnit?  He didn?t know at the time that putting the body in a bin would be the most successful means of body disposal he could think of.  In fact Faithlilly?s theory is that he put the body in the bin because he wanted it to be found so that they could get the body back for a decent Christian funeral!  I mean it?s all nuts really.  He should have tossed it over Robert Murat?s wall - then Murat would be in prison right now, the McCanns would have got their body back, and we wouldn?t be having daft conversations about the case 18 years later.

[Wonderfulspam]

Within hours of Madeleine disappearing, Kate searched for her missing daughter, of whom there was no evidence she had come to any harm, Kate by her own admission searched for Maddie inside a big dumpster type bin.
What could have given her the idea that Maddie would be inside a bin? Was she expecting to find her hiding alive in the bin? Unlikely IMO. No. She must have thought that 'the f..king b........s' who took Maddie had murdered her quickly & dumped her in a bin. So, the bin theory began with Kate on the night of May 3rd. Anyway. If Kate thinks Maddie was put in the bin then that's one part of the case where I can agree with her.

[barrier]

Within hours of Madeleine disappearing, Kate searched for her missing daughter, of whom there was no evidence she had come to any harm, Kate by her own admission searched for Maddie inside a big dumpster type bin.
What could have given her the idea that Maddie would be inside a bin? Was she expecting to find her hiding alive in the bin? Unlikely IMO. No. She must have thought that 'the f..king b........s' who took Maddie had murdered her quickly & dumped her in a bin. So, the bin theory began with Kate on the night of May 3rd. Anyway. If Kate thinks Maddie was put in the bin then that's one part of the case where I can agree with her.

The bin was for moving later, they've taken her accounts for the bins being emptied.

[Wonderfulspam]

"As soon as it was light Gerry and I resumed our search. We went up and down roads we?d never seen before, having barely left the Ocean Club complex all week. We jumped over walls and raked through undergrowth. We looked in ditches and holes. All was quiet apart from the sound of barking dogs, which added to the eeriness of the atmosphere. I remember opening a big dumpster-type bin and saying to myself, please God, don?t let her be in here. The most striking and horrific thing about all this was that we were completely alone. Nobody else, it seemed, was out looking for Madeleine. Just us, her parents. We must have been out for at least an hour before returning to David and Fiona?s apartment."

[Wonderfulspam]

"The most striking and horrific thing about all this was that we were completely alone. Nobody else, it seemed, was out looking for Madeleine. Just us, her parents."


Yes well it was their sodding daughter. It's their own fault she disappeared. Maybe they should have taken better care of her. What were they expecting? The whole town to have to turn out at the crack of dawn to try & correct a mess that they created?  Passing the buck onto everyone else within hours of her disappearance. Christ it's no wonder so many people hate the McCanns. They are selfish inconsiderate b........s really.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The bin was for moving later, they've taken her accounts for the bins being emptied.

Wait, so when Kate did her check she was actually heading dowtown herself to check the bin Gerry had put her in but it had already been emptied so ran back to the OC and said ?They (the binmen) have taken her??  Or there was a bin at 5a that they put her in which she discovered had already been emptied (then how does Smithman fit into this scenario)? 

[Wonderfulspam]

They couldn't even be bothered to leave the patio door locked & use the locked front entrance, depending on which statement you believe. No they were more concerned with making it easier on them, saving precious Tapas minutes, rather than making things safer for the children. They put themselves before their kids & then when one of them disappears due to their neglect they expect everyone else to go out searching for her. They really are complete assholes.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So you hide your child?s body in a bin and signal to the world that?s what you?ve done by looking in bins and telling people you think she might have been put in a bin.  Yes, that makes sense.