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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18540 on: April 16, 2026, 10:08:34 PM »

It is noticeable, at least to me anyway, that the only evidence of abduction ever released to the public by SY are those pesky efits. Naked confessions aside.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #18541 on: April 16, 2026, 10:12:37 PM »
If the e-fits would have come out contemporaneously who knows what response they may have had was my point. A holidaymaker may have come forward and identifed themselves, or an innocent resident picking up a child and trudging home.
We may not all be sat here now, mulling over the case forever.
There are lots of ifs and buts regarding this sighting but I think the most critical lapse was not the failure to release the efits but the failure of the Smiths to report what they?d seen the day after they saw it.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18542 on: April 16, 2026, 10:16:19 PM »
I don't believe Brueckner is all that dangerous. Yes he's been a bit naughty & done a bit of drug dealing, burgling & violent rape, but really, I think he is a bit of a coward. He's had ample opportunity to escalate to the maximum & kill someone but it hasn't happened. I simply don't believe he is really that way inclined. He probably loved his dog I believe even though he buried it with kid porn. He's had normal relationships with different women whom he didn't harm. One testified to his good character during his trial. No, he simply doesn't give me real Sutcliffe vibes but I can't say the same about the McCanns.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18543 on: April 16, 2026, 10:39:01 PM »
There are lots of ifs and buts regarding this sighting but I think the most critical lapse was not the failure to release the efits but the failure of the Smiths to report what they?d seen the day after they saw it.

For me, this is because they weren't sure what they had witnessed at the time. It didn't strike them as a child abduction in process. They simply got on with their lives, until Peter's dream. Peter spoke to Sky News around the time of the e-fits being released & said in hindsight that it had to be her. It's the most convincing evidence of abduction ever released by SY, only, it fits better with the other theory really.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #18544 on: April 16, 2026, 10:57:27 PM »
Apparently it doesn?t matter how many times you post this section of Martin smith?s statement, some people will still  make up reasons to try and explain their unforgiveable tardiness at coming forward:

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Urged, states that when he passed this individual it would have been around 22H00, and at the time he was completely unaware that a child had disappeared. He only became aware of the disappearance of the child the next morning, through his daughter, L*****, in Ireland who had sent him a message or called him regarding what had happened. At this point he thought that MADELEINE could have been the child he saw with the individual.

So the very next day after the sighting the Smiths thought the dead child being carried away by the unfriendly man might well have been the missing child but decided to wait a few weeks before coming forward, and people are quite ok with this?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18545 on: April 16, 2026, 11:05:56 PM »
Apparently it doesn?t matter how many times you post this section of Martin smith?s statement, some people will still  make up reasons to try and explain their unforgiveable tardiness at coming forward:

So the very next day after the sighting the Smiths thought the dead child being carried away by the unfriendly man might well have been the missing child but decided to wait a few weeks before coming forward, and people are quite ok with this?

I know this, but it wasn't his child so why should he care? Like I said he was probably in two minds really because it simply didn't strike any of them that they had witnessed a child abduction.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18546 on: April 16, 2026, 11:10:08 PM »

Mr McCann didn't believe there was an abduction. According to Russell, Mr McCann was the first to suggest they split up & search for her, as if she had wandered out. He didn't even bother attempting to notify the police for about forty minutes either.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18547 on: April 16, 2026, 11:21:16 PM »

Gerry claims he knew immediately, because of Kate & the window, but then he suggests they split up & search as if she had just wandered out. Then, he disappears like his daughter, while Kate, according to Diane 5 minutes later, she is sat on the bed & not running up & down the carpark wishing she'd dressed Maddie in long sleeves, as she claimed in her book.
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Offline Uncle Jr

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #18548 on: April 16, 2026, 11:22:52 PM »
Apparently it doesn?t matter how many times you post this section of Martin smith?s statement, some people will still  make up reasons to try and explain their unforgiveable tardiness at coming forward:

So the very next day after the sighting the Smiths thought the dead child being carried away by the unfriendly man might well have been the missing child but decided to wait a few weeks before coming forward, and people are quite ok with this?
I don't see the delay as significant as the action to report the sighting. A cynic would suggest an ulterior motive, such as attemptinhg to exonerate Robert Murat, but that really is the realms of fantasy.
I believe it to be genuine and, as yet, unexplained.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18549 on: April 16, 2026, 11:28:22 PM »

What seems more likely? That really he was in two minds then never thought about it again until Peter mentioned it? Or, that he spitefully decided not to report the abduction to the police for reasons unknown?
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Offline Uncle Jr

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« Reply #18550 on: April 16, 2026, 11:33:55 PM »
What seems more likely? That really he was in two minds then never thought about it again until Peter mentioned it? Or, that he spitefully decided not to report the abduction to the police for reasons unknown?
I agree. We have to provide logic and balance to it.
Nevertheless, as I've mentioned previously, the sighting only really serves to provide a hypothetical defence with an avenue for reasonable doubt for a monster who really shouldn't be provided with wiggle room.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18551 on: April 16, 2026, 11:40:06 PM »
On an Irish TV chat show which is now blocked on youtube, Gerry claimed, when asked how he knew she had been abducted & hadn't wandered just out he stated the open window & the rear child gate with child lock as the reason. So, via the window & child gate he knew, yet, suggested they split up & search, as if she's just wandered out, rather than notifying the police immediately. It took Fiona to instruct Matt to go to reception, yet he didn't know she'd been abducted, like her mother & father apparently did & so didn't know to alert them to the severity of the paedo abduction via window.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #18552 on: April 16, 2026, 11:45:35 PM »
I agree. We have to provide logic and balance to it.
Nevertheless, as I've mentioned previously, the sighting only really serves to provide a hypothetical defence with an avenue for reasonable doubt for a monster who really shouldn't be provided with wiggle room.

He said he thought it was just a father & child also, so there was some doubt for him & about what he witnessed. Maybe he didn't convey that in his witness statement but it seems most likely to me when you look at the totality of the circumstances. They all noticed him, Mrs Smith may have found the situation with the girl odd, Mr Smith felt the man looked uncomfortable carrying her, but, they just got on with their lives until reminded sadly.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #18553 on: Today at 07:18:47 AM »
I don't see the delay as significant as the action to report the sighting. A cynic would suggest an ulterior motive, such as attemptinhg to exonerate Robert Murat, but that really is the realms of fantasy.
I believe it to be genuine and, as yet, unexplained.
The simple fact of the matter is - when they heard about the missing child on 4th May it crossed their mind that this was the child they saw the night before and they said nothing for three weeks, not until Murat was plastered all over the news. You?re welcome to draw your own conclusions and I shall draw mine.   I don?t see what is remotely fantastical about deciding to contact the police to try and right a perceived wrong (ie that in their view the police were pointing the finger at the wrong man). 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #18554 on: Today at 07:24:43 AM »
Furthermore, we are led to believe that the child in Smithman?s arms looked so deathly pale and basically drugged or dead that it prompted Mrs Smith to ask Oh is she asleep, which suggests concern even before they knew of the disappearance the next day, but still they waited three weeks!  But do carry on putting the Smiths on a pedastal, how amazingly public spirited they (very belatedly) turned out to be.
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