Wandering Off Topic

[faithlilly]

The officer prioritised an accusation of assault & racism over the visible evidence of a young man collapsed on the floor repeatedly telling the officer I've been stabbed & I can't breathe. He needs to explain why he made that choice.

Do you think that the officer believed that the young man had been stabbed but did nothing because that?s certainly not what the video shows?

[Wonderfulspam]

Do you think that the officer believed that the young man had been stabbed but did nothing because that?s certainly not what the video shows?

No, the officer clearly didn't believe Henry had been stabbed, even though Henry was collapsed on the floor infront of him telling him "I've been stabbed". His main concern was not to check if the young man had been stabbed or not, his main concern was arresting him. Have you actually watched the bodycam Faith?

[faithlilly]

No, the officer clearly didn't believe Henry had been stabbed, even though Henry was collapsed on the floor infront of him telling him "I've been stabbed". His main concern was not to check if the young man had been stabbed or not, his main concern was arresting him. Have you actually watched the bodycam Faith?

Yes I have watched the footage and it is clear that the police officer didn't believe Henry and that informed his actions. What information did the police have to go on at the time? A accusation backed up by two witnesses, no weapon. The problem is regularly police officers encounter criminals who feign injury or illness to avoid arrest or detainment.

Tragically this is what seems to have happened here and while I believe the police officer should be held to account for his lack of care I don't believe that if the man injured had been black, Muslim or Chinese and not white that his behaviour have been any different. It was the weight of the two witnesses telling the same story that made the difference.

BTW for balance perhaps it would be worth you looking into data regarding the arrest rates of black and white individuals and seeing where the disparity really lies.

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes I have watched the footage and it is clear that the police officer didn't believe Henry and that informed his actions. What information did the police have to go on at the time? A accusation backed up by two witnesses, no weapon. The problem is regularly police officers encounter criminals who feign injury or illness to avoid arrest or detainment.

Tragically this is what seems to have happened here and while I believe the police officer should be held to account for his lack of care I don't believe that if the man injured had been black, Muslim or Chinese and not white that his behaviour have been any different. It was the weight of the two witnesses telling the same story that made the difference.

BTW for balance perhaps it would be worth you looking into data regarding the arrest rates of black and white individuals and seeing where the disparity really lies.

The reason black people are arrested at a higher rate is because black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime, relative to their population share. In the UK & America, more White people are killed by black people per capita than the reverse. Young black men commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime mostly intra racial. Criminologists give reasons such as poverty, gang involvement & lack of employment but this is all backed up by the statistical data. It isn't ALL black people obviously that would be racist, but in the US black people are 14% of the population but commit 50% of all homicides. To deny the reality of the statistical data will do nothing to ever solve the issue.

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes I have watched the footage and it is clear that the police officer didn't believe Henry and that informed his actions. What information did the police have to go on at the time? A accusation backed up by two witnesses, no weapon. The problem is regularly police officers encounter criminals who feign injury or illness to avoid arrest or detainment.

Tragically this is what seems to have happened here and while I believe the police officer should be held to account for his lack of care I don't believe that if the man injured had been black, Muslim or Chinese and not white that his behaviour have been any different. It was the weight of the two witnesses telling the same story that made the difference.

BTW for balance perhaps it would be worth you looking into data regarding the arrest rates of black and white individuals and seeing where the disparity really lies.

His immediate attention, when a person is lay on the floor in front of him saying I can't breathe x9 & I've been stabbed x4, his response should simply not have been to answer with 'I don't think you have mate'& not bother to check him over at all before slapping cuffs on him. He f..ked up, he believed the two witnesses over the visible & audio evidence of a collapsed man telling him he's been stabbed. He needs to explain why he made that decision.

[faithlilly]

His immediate attention, when a person is lay on the floor in front of him saying I can't breathe x9 & I've been stabbed x4, his response should simply not have been to answer with 'I don't think you have mate'& not bother to check him over at all before slapping cuffs on him. He f..ked up, he believed the two witnesses over the visible & audio evidence of a collapsed man telling him he's been stabbed. He needs to explain why he made that decision.

Absolutely. Isn't that what I've just said?

[faithlilly]

The reason black people are arrested at a higher rate is because black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime, relative to their population share. In the UK & America, more White people are killed by black people per capita than the reverse. Young black men commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime mostly intra racial. Criminologists give reasons such as poverty, gang involvement & lack of employment but this is all backed up by the statistical data. It isn't ALL black people obviously that would be racist, but in the US black people are 14% of the population but commit 50% of all homicides. To deny the reality of the statistical data will do nothing to ever solve the issue.

Black people are 2.2 times more likely to be arrested than white people. Not charged or convicted but arrested. The arrest rate is around 8-12% dispite only making up 3-4% of the population.

[Wonderfulspam]

Black people are 2.2 times more likely to be arrested than white people. Not charged or convicted but arrested. The arrest rate is around 8-12% dispite only making up 3-4% of the population.

Because they do a lot of crime. They commit violent crime at disproportionate rates relative to their population share & living in more dangerous violent environments they have more interactions with the police. There's no grand conspiracy to target black people. The arrest rate is because of their own actions. To pretend there isn't an excess crime problem in black communities is to deny statistical data & the evidence of your ears & eyes. 14% of the population, 50% of all homicides. If someone could snap their fingers & make all the black people disappear there'd be 50% less homicides. It would almost be utopia. How's the GDP & crime rate in South Africa & Zimbabwe since they sent the white devil man home?

[Wonderfulspam]

Despite black people making up only 4% of the UK population they commit 24% of all homicides

[kizzy]

Anyway. Say it loud say it clear.....

WHITE LIVES MATTER

Justice For Henry Nowak

The officers who arrested the dying young White man when he told them four times that he had been stabbed, & nine times that he couldn't breathe, they need to be thrown in jail along with the racist murderer & his extended family, then all of them deported.

Vote Restore Britain

Well said........ Say it loud say it clear as Ay_Audit says.

IMO the trouble starts when police turn up in riot gear.....no need for there violence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD89-DdvjDU

[kizzy]

Yes I have watched the footage and it is clear that the police officer didn't believe Henry and that informed his actions. What information did the police have to go on at the time? A accusation backed up by two witnesses, no weapon. The problem is regularly police officers encounter criminals who feign injury or illness to avoid arrest or detainment.

Tragically this is what seems to have happened here and while I believe the police officer should be held to account for his lack of care I don't believe that if the man injured had been black, Muslim or Chinese and not white that his behaviour have been any different. It was the weight of the two witnesses telling the same story that made the difference.

BTW for balance perhaps it would be worth you looking into data regarding the arrest rates of black and white individuals and seeing where the disparity really lies.

When Henry said I have been stabbed.. He should have said WHERE....and at least checked

There were 3 of them apparently 2 women .....at least one of them should have acted as if they cared.


"The issue in this case is likely to be whether any act or omission by a police officer or any delay in the treatment Henry Nowak received caused or contributed to death."

 looking into data regarding the arrest rates of black and white ...its not about Data its about Henry Nowak

What happened to him.

[Wonderfulspam]

The cry of racism don't work for me anymore. People have ears & eyes. They see black people, they see crime statistics, they see the visible decline from a high trust to now a low trust society since there are more of them around & they are sick of their shit. I have 3rd degree incurable black fatigue & I'm not going to apologise for it, I keep as far away from them as possible because I'd rather be called a racist & be alive, than risk running into one of them, not being racist enough & ending up dead like Iryna Zaruska or the 3 White people who were murdered by Valdo Colcane.

[Wonderfulspam]

The race action plan drawn up in the wake of George Floyd hysteria demanded that officers do not treat everyone the same or be colour blind. The systemic racism is there in black & White, only it's directed at White people.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Here?s another interesting set of stats for those who like to make their arguments based on statistics (except when it suits them)
Despite only being 49% of the population, men commit
over 80% of sll crimes in the UK
83% of all violent crimes
93% of all homicides
98% of all sexual crimes
What a better place the UK would be if we got rid of all men, or perhaps just had them as slaves to fill pot holes and deliver the weekly shop, useful stuff like that.  I?d rather be a misandrist and keep well clear of men than get all gooey eyed over them , flutter my eyelashes at them and end up dead most likely.

[Wonderfulspam]

Here?s another interesting set of stats for those who like to make their arguments based on statistics (except when it suits them)
Despite only being 49% of the population, men commit
over 80% of sll crimes in the UK
83% of all violent crimes
93% of all homicides
98% of all sexual crimes
What a better place the UK would be if we got rid of all men, or perhaps just had them as slaves to fill pot holes and deliver the weekly shop, useful stuff like that.  I?d rather be a misandrist and keep well clear of men than get all gooey eyed over them , flutter my eyelashes at them and end up dead most likely.

Who would keep the power stations running, the housing built & maintained, the bins collected etc. Women are good at some things, men, better at others.

There are physical IQ differences & behavioural differences between the sexes. So why would race be any different?