Wandering Off Topic

[Joe Blogs]

What a spurious and nonsensical argument.  The police are EMPLOYED to try and bring murderers to justice and therefore reviewing police bodycam and CCTV is part of their job, and probably not something they do for kicks.  You (a probably unemployed ex drug dealing slob) watch murders and deaths for your own personal enjoyment and nothing more.  You watching them does nothing to help bring murderers to justice.  Do you also seek out child abuse videos and images because it?s reality and you?re interested in crime and criminality?  Why do you need to witness human beings going through the most terrifying, painful and humiliating experiences of their lives?  To think you would actually seek out footage of the Nottingham murders taking place if you could if such was available to you for no reason other than to satisfy your ghoulish fascination with death and murder is a major personality red flag, it?s depraved and sickening and I?m pretty sure the majority of decent human beings on this planet would agree with me (and I don?t just mean women).  Joe, is this something you find acceptable, normal behaviour?

Well I suppose we all perceive acceptable and normal  differently,  Vertigo.
Personally, I don't like any real life gore, I wont even watch operations on TV.
But!!! Without people with strong stomachs we wouldn't have any Drs, soldiers, police etc,.

[Wonderfulspam]

Well I suppose we all perceive acceptable and normal  differently,  Vertigo.
Personally, I don't like any real life gore, I wont even watch operations on TV.
But!!! Without people with strong stomachs we wouldn't have any Drs, soldiers, police etc,.

I certainly wouldn't say I 'like' gore & it isn't something I seek out for thrills at all. It is to me a natural curiosity to observe how others behave. Some of the things I've seen you simply wouldn't believe. But the world is a very sick place, some of the people we are forced to share our society with are simply barbaric & animalistic. I think it is wise to observe the worst of crimes to try & learn from them & the behaviour of criminals & try & protect yourself from ever becoming a victim.

[Wonderfulspam]

Watching the Derek Chauvin trial made me a little distressed at times because I had to watch videos of a man having a fentanyl overdose while struggling to breathe & with a knee on his neck for 9 minutes. But it was nowhere near the worst I have ever seen. Jurors have to sit & watch harrowing footage repeatedly during criminal trials. I guess there are some people in this world who simply couldn't do it. Some more squeamish than others. I suppose I do have a strong stomach but then in my personal life I've witnessed first hand death of a person in front of me a couple of times so maybe I'm just built differently. Which I am by way of autism so maybe that has something to do with it also.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well I suppose we all perceive acceptable and normal  differently,  Vertigo.
Personally, I don't like any real life gore, I wont even watch operations on TV.
But!!! Without people with strong stomachs we wouldn't have any Drs, soldiers, police etc,.

Please don't equate someone who spends far too much of his time actively seeking out horrific videos of people dying for his own amusement and entertainment (and that is what it is, there is no higher purpose to it regardless of what the WUM says, just look at the way he delights in writing about these horrific things he's witnessed) with people whose careers are based on saving lives, defending their country and bringing criminals to justice. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Poor Lee Rigby had his head chopped off on our streets by deranged young Islamists, & now a Belfast man has almost been decapitated on the streets over there. There's a few common things in these instances that I can observe so far. Both types of crimes are excessively violent & unprovoked, & both instances involve young men of African ancestry, who happen to be 3 to 5 times more likely to develop schizophrenia than other races. This is of course terrible of me to notice such a pattern & completely racist. But I'm going to have to seriously consider never leaving the house without a 3" UK legal pocket knife from now on, if this is the kind of behaviour we can expect to see in future, by all the wonderful doctors & engineers our government are flooding onto our streets.

[Wonderfulspam]

Please don't equate someone who spends far too much of his time actively seeking out horrific videos of people dying for his own amusement and entertainment (and that is what it is, there is no higher purpose to it regardless of what the WUM says, just look at the way he delights in writing about these horrific things he's witnessed) with people whose careers are based on saving lives, defending their country and bringing criminals to justice.

Yes I'm only watching people being decapitated or handcuffed while dying, so I can go & wank off about it later. You've got me. Go back to your knitting & doing nice lady things dear, if reality is simply too much for you.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes I'm only watching people being decapitated or handcuffed while dying, so I can go & wank off about it later. You've got me. Go back to your knitting & doing nice lady things dear, if reality is simply too much for you.

So you?re either a fan of decapitstion videos or you do knitting, like there?s nothing in between?  At least you admit to being a w....... though, I suppose I should acknowledge your self awareness.

[Wonderfulspam]

So you?re either a fan of decapitstion videos or you do knitting, like there?s nothing in between?  At least you admit to being a w....... though, I suppose I should acknowledge your self awareness.

Yes, I didn't watch the whole Belfast video, I'm not feeling up to it today. Although I do watch criminal trials & body cams involving serious violence & death, I can't do it all the time. The Henry Nowak bodycam made me feel ill for a few days tbh. But this could escalate seriously. The Irish like a good riot & this might be the trigger that reunites protestants & catholics. There's only so much people can take.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Poor Lee Rigby had his head chopped off on our streets by deranged young Islamists, & now a Belfast man has almost been decapitated on the streets over there. There's a few common things in these instances that I can observe so far. Both types of crimes are excessively violent & unprovoked, & both instances involve young men of African ancestry, who happen to be 3 to 5 times more likely to develop schizophrenia than other races. This is of course terrible of me to notice such a pattern & completely racist. But I'm going to have to seriously consider never leaving the house without a 3" UK legal pocket knife from now on, if this is the kind of behaviour we can expect to see in future, by all the wonderful doctors & engineers our government are flooding onto our streets.

These terrorists have also got something in common with you - they probably watched all the same videos you wtached online. If I knew my son?s scoutmaster had spent a considerable amount of his freetime seeking out such videos online I?d have removed him from the scouts immediately and reported the weirdo to the scouting organisation pdq. 

[Wonderfulspam]

These terrorists have also got something in common with you - they probably watched all the same videos you wtached online. If I knew my son?s scoutmaster had spent a considerable amount of his freetime seeking out such videos online I?d have removed him from the scouts immediately and reported the weirdo to the scouting organisation pdq.

So do jurors & police at criminal trials, but you don't see them suddenly running into the street decapitating people. I don't spend all my time studying homicide. I also read about geopolitics & take an interest mountaineering books & history, outdoor survival, other history, test match cricket. I could go on but I'm not waking up every day thinking about how many violent murders I want to witness & how many young children I want to encourage to commit violent crime either. That would be absurd. But if hear of a criminal case or terrorist incident I might be interested in then I do a bit of research. It is natural human curiosity to me. But if you're so opposed to hearing about or seeing violent homicide, then I suggest you stop voting for political parties that are intent on importing people at an increased risk of violent schizophrenia.

[Wonderfulspam]

It's a wonder to me really that criminologists & police who have read about & viewed countless hours of violent homicide, aren't all out in the world hacking people to death with machetes & are banned from being around young children, due to their increased risk of decapitating them, or their habit of encouraging them to commit violent crime.

[Wonderfulspam]

Adam Lanza was an autistic who extensively studied mass shootings before he ran into Sandy Hook. But he also had other major increased risk factors because he was quite a severe autistic who took a very keen interest in firearms, his mother also kept  firearms & ammo within the home, & he didn't like her very much either & was severely socially inept & isolated. My social skills & circle were not as low as his & although if I lived in the USA I would be a gun owner for self defence, I don't have any real interest in firearms, but would need to own one, due to the increased risk of being a victim of firearms incidents. I don't believe anything could possibly compel me to put a bullet in another person, unless they were just about to kill me & I had no other option.

[Wonderfulspam]

I've been reading quite extensively about Madeleine McCann for nearly 20 years but the really curious thing I find is that I still haven't neglected any little girls & left them to die in holiday apartments then covered up said death by faking an abduction. Nor have I abducted & murdered any little girls & driven them back to Germany & buried them in box factory either. It's strange. It seems it's almost as if, just because you might read & take an interest in & study various crimes over a period of time, it doesn't necessarily cause you to commit said crimes. No, there needs to be added risk factors it would appear. I am White I suppose, there is that. Most school shooters are White, but I'm not interested in guns, don't have access to them, wouldn't ever want to have to use one. Also I wasn't raised by a single mother, didn't witness violence in the home, not suicidal, don't have schizophrenia & so on & so forth. No, it's about the increased risk factors really. In much the same way that Muslims aren't all terrorists, & young black men don't all commit crime.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Methink Mother Theresaspam doth keep on protesting way too much, and relying very heavily on strawman and absurdio argumentation. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Methink Mother Theresaspam doth keep on protesting way too much, and relying very heavily on strawman and absurdio argumentation.

I'm not here to argue. Just discuss things, & since we are seeing a lot of violent homicide in the news going on I felt I'd share my experience. Anyway I'll try & stop now. But the main point is crime = bad - violent crime = really bad & violent homicide= really nasty. Age, gender, race, bad upbringing & exposure to violence etc = increased risk of violent crime. Wonderfulspam cat lover with two non absusive parents, some (although very obviously not enough) education & no exposure to violence when young + tends dying old cancer patients = not so high risk of violent crime. I think you get the picture.