Wandering Off Topic

[Wonderfulspam]

IIRC, either Sheila went crazy with the gun & despite her small stature managed to physically over power the much taller stronger Neville, if we take Bamber at his word, & if that didn't happen then Bamber must be guilty. I don't really buy the going crazy with the gun theory so I get the impression it must have been Bamber.

[Vertigo Swirl]

IIRC, either Sheila went crazy with the gun & despite her small stature managed to physically over power the much taller stronger Neville, if we take Bamber at his word, & if that didn't happen then Bamber must be guilty. I don't really buy the going crazy with the gun theory so I get the impression it must have been Bamber.

Except that I agree with you which means you now need to take the opposite view, because I?m a gullible moron who believes the McCanns.

[Wonderfulspam]

Except that I agree with you which means you now need to take the opposite view, because I?m a gullible moron who believes the McCanns.

We have agreed on other things before. I remember we agreed that the hysterical public mourning of Sarah Everard by hundreds of people who never knew her was a bit ridiculous & we also agreed that pinning the fentanyl addict to the floor with a knee on his neck for 9mins as he pleaded for it to stop was quite unreasonable also. But in such instances where we do agree on matters I have to take several long hot showers after.

[Joe Blogs]

I've never really read much about or taken an interest in either case tbh so I really can't say but I do get the feel from everything I read that Bamber is guilty.

Ah! I just thought you could side with Vertigo for a change if you thought they were guilty like her, Spam!
Are there any other cases you have an opinion about?

[Wonderfulspam]

Ah! I just thought you could side with Vertigo for a change if you thought they were guilty like her, Spam!
Are there any other cases you have an opinion about?

I'm unsure about the conviction of Michael Stone since there is no direct evidence or any tangible evidence he is actually guilty. But I'm not convinced Levi Belfield did it either as his wife has given him an alibi & Belfield has messed around claiming to be guilty with unconvincing confessions.

[Joe Blogs]

I'm unsure about the conviction of Michael Stone since there is no direct evidence or any tangible evidence he is actually guilty. But I'm not convinced Levi Belfield did it either as his wife has given him an alibi & Belfield has messed around claiming to be guilty with unconvincing confessions.

I haven't looked into any of those cases, Spam!
All i've looked at is-
Bamber-innocent.
Luke Mitchell-innocent.
Lucy Letby-not sure, but most likely guilty.
The McCanns-still on the fence i'm afraid!

[Vertigo Swirl]

I haven't looked into any of those cases, Spam!
All i've looked at is-
Bamber-innocent.
Luke Mitchell-innocent.
Lucy Letby-not sure, but most likely guilty.
The McCanns-still on the fence i'm afraid!

IMO
Michael Stone - likely innocent
Bamber - guilty
Mitchell - on the fence but a little scrote either way
Letby - erring towards innocent
McCanns - innocent
Bruckner (for the abduction and murder of Madeleine) - erring towards guilty.

[Vertigo Swirl]

We have agreed on other things before. I remember we agreed that the hysterical public mourning of Sarah Everard by hundreds of people who never knew her was a bit ridiculous & we also agreed that pinning the fentanyl addict to the floor with a knee on his neck for 9mins as he pleaded for it to stop was quite unreasonable also. But in such instances where we do agree on matters I have to take several long hot showers after.

No you don?t, you have to take cold showers because it gets you stimulated.

[Lace]

I'm unsure about the conviction of Michael Stone since there is no direct evidence or any tangible evidence he is actually guilty. But I'm not convinced Levi Belfield did it either as his wife has given him an alibi & Belfield has messed around claiming to be guilty with unconvincing confessions.

So you are unsure about the conviction of Michael Stone.  Yet if you had your way he wouldn't be around today as he would have been given a lethal injection.

[Wonderfulspam]

So you are unsure about the conviction of Michael Stone.  Yet if you had your way he wouldn't be around today as he would have been given a lethal injection.

I very clearly stated that capital punishment should require direct evidence, ie dna, cctv & other forensics which leave absolutely no room for doubt.

[Wonderfulspam]

So anyway. What we appear to have established is that McCann supporters here care more about the human rights of the child murdering rapists than I do. I believe child murdering rapists should be sentenced to a swift & painless death. The Women folk here prefer it when the child murdering rapist gets to live in a nice warm prison with all their food, water, energy, healthcare & activities funded by the taxpayer for the remainder of their natural lives. So despite Me being accused of being a paedo sympathiser all these years, it is in fact the Women McCann supporters here that support the rights of the child murdering rapist a great deal more than I do. I'm glad we finally cleared that up.

[Wonderfulspam]

Correction. VS has said she likes it when the child murdering rapist is brutally, painfully & inhumanely tortured to death. Eleanor would consider this barbaric, as she believes that killing is always wrong. But she has since kept very quiet about her views on abortion, assisted dying & the right to use lethal force in self defence.

[Joe Blogs]

IMO
Michael Stone - likely innocent
Bamber - guilty
Mitchell - on the fence but a little scrote either way
Letby - erring towards innocent
McCanns - innocent
Bruckner (for the abduction and murder of Madeleine) - erring towards guilty.

Thanks, Vertigo!

[Eleanor]

I believe that Jeremy Bamber is innocent.

[Wonderfulspam]

I believe that Jeremy Bamber is innocent.

Great, but what are your opinions on abortion, assisted dying & self defence, Eleanor? Would you now concede that killing is indeed acceptable in certain circumstances? Or are you standing by what you said & we need to ban all these things?