Wandering Off Topic

[Eleanor]

A Foetus by English Law is not a person so murder is not possible.

[Wonderfulspam]

A Foetus by English Law is not a person so murder is not possible.

You said 'killing' is always wrong. Abortion is killing a human life.

[Wonderfulspam]

She barges in here with her absolute disgust & outrage over the idea of executing child raping murderers. But is then deliberately evasive when it comes to discussing other topics of ethics & morality when it comes to extinguishing a human life.

[Wonderfulspam]

We can kill babies in the third trimester when they are very developed & could live outside the w..b with some support. But, if you stab it to death just as it is exiting the vagina, that's just evil & nasty, despicable & wrong.

[Eleanor]

We can kill babies in the third trimester when they are very developed & could live outside the w..b with some support. But, if you stab it to death just as it is exiting the vagina, that's just evil & nasty, despicable & wrong.

What a plonker you are.  It never ceases to amaze me.

[Wonderfulspam]

Come to think of it, I've never heard any pregnant woman say 'I'm having a foetus'. No, they call it a baby even in the early stages of pregnancy. If they miscarry, they don't then cry about it saying 'I've lost my foetus' either do they. No. So at some point that thing in there must therefore go from simply being a feotus, to a baby.

[Wonderfulspam]

What a plonker you are.  It never ceases to amaze me.

I seem to remember you saying you've had a couple of foetuses. How old are your foetuses now?

[Wonderfulspam]

What a plonker you are.  It never ceases to amaze me.

At some point that thing in there is no longer a clump of cells but a baby. When does that happen?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Correction. VS has said she likes it when the child murdering rapist is brutally, painfully & inhumanely tortured to death. Eleanor would consider this barbaric, as she believes that killing is always wrong. But she has since kept very quiet about her views on abortion, assisted dying & the right to use lethal force in self defence.

Except I didn?t say that all, why do you have to lie to make your asinine arguments?

[Wonderfulspam]

Except I didn?t say that all, why do you have to lie to make your asinine arguments?

You said you considered it a win that Huntley & Watkins were viciously murdered. Are you now saying you don't like winning? I'd find that very hard to believe.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I?ve been accused by the troll of having multiple abortions and lying about it.  This is beyond the pale.  I may as well accuse the troll of abusing multiple children and if he protests his innocence I will twist a few statistics into an argument to demonstrate that he must be lying and is therefore a paedophile himself.

Or we could drop the ridiculous accusations and have a civilised debate on the matter.  Which is it to be Spam?  All you need do is apologise for your previous false accusation and stop lying about other things you think I have said and we can proceed, otherwise it?s just going to be more of the same insults and nonsense.  Perhaps you get off on that more than serious adult debate?  In fact, no perhaps about it, eh?

[Vertigo Swirl]

You said you considered it a win that Huntley & Watkins were viciously murdered. Are you now saying you don't like winning? I'd find that very hard to believe.

How do I win if a murderer locked up for life is murdered?  They pose absolutely no threat to me whatsoever.  That said,  OK, it was a flippant turn of phrase, I don?t like the idea of some criminal stabbing another in the eyes and throat with a shiv, it disgusts me, and I feel sorry for the prison staff who have to clear up after it.  Nevertheless the net result is one I will not lose sleep or shed tears over.  Perhaps prison staff should do more to ensure these attacks on other prisoners and on themselves are less able to occur.  Perhaps solitary confinement 23/7 with one hour of supervised solo exercise a day for the most violent offenders would reduce the opportunity for murders and violent attacks in prison.  Now, Mr Pigeon, over to you to kick over the pieces and shit on the board as usual.

[Wonderfulspam]

I?ve been accused by the troll of having multiple abortions and lying about it.  This is beyond the pale.  I may as well accuse the troll of abusing multiple children and if he protests his innocence I will twist a few statistics into an argument to demonstrate that he must be lying and is therefore a paedophile himself.

Or we could drop the ridiculous accusations and have a civilised debate on the matter.  Which is it to be Spam?  All you need do is apologise for your previous false accusation and stop lying about other things you think I have said and we can proceed, otherwise it?s just going to be more of the same insults and nonsense.  Perhaps you get off on that more than serious adult debate?  In fact, no perhaps about it, eh?

That was about 5 days ago. It wasn't an issue last night. I'm not sure why you're suddenly so offended by it now. If it was such an issue, why didn't you say that before? I have to question your motivation for raising this matter now & failing to mention the problem sooner. 'I said that I don't believe you & reckon you've had lots of abortions', that's all. The statistics do indicate that lots of women have abortions, 1 in 4. And also, it is known that many women do not tell the truth about whether or not they've ever actually had an abortion, due to stigma. So whilst you may well say you've never had an abortion, according to the statistics there's a one in four likelihood you actually have & high chance you wouldn't tell the truth about it anyway. I cant just look at the reality of the statistics & ignore them I'm afraid. That would be unwise. Meanwhile the statistical likelihood that I as being a man were a paedophile is indeed higher than if I were a woman, but the statistical likelihood that I was attracted to children or had commit sex offences against them would be considerably lower when considering the prevalence of paedophiles among the overall male population.

[Wonderfulspam]

How do I win if a murderer locked up for life is murdered?  They pose absolutely no threat to me whatsoever.  That said,  OK, it was a flippant turn of phrase, I don?t like the idea of some criminal stabbing another in the eyes and throat with a shiv, it disgusts me, and I feel sorry for the prison staff who have to clear up after it.  Nevertheless the net result is one I will not lose sleep or shed tears over.  Perhaps prison staff should do more to ensure these attacks on other prisoners and on themselves are less able to occur.  Perhaps solitary confinement 23/7 with one hour of supervised solo exercise a day for the most violent offenders would reduce the opportunity for murders and violent attacks in prison.  Now, Mr Pigeon, over to you to kick over the pieces and shit on the board as usual.

So you do want the murdering paedo child rapist to be kept alive safe, fed, watered & cared for for the remainder of their natural life. Which is what I said in the first place.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So you do want the murdering paedo child rapist to be kept alive safe, fed, watered & cared for for the remainder of their natural life. Which is what I said in the first place.

If that?s the way you want to present it, then yes I suppose so, as an alternative to having someone put a noose round their neck and hang them till their head falls off or inject them with some deadly chemical in front of an audience that may take minutes to kill them and cause indescribable suffering.