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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19635 on: August 07, 2026, 11:29:51 PM »
The casualty statistics I posted from the civil war in East Ukraine are from the UN.
And are repeated in the wikipedia entry I posted.  What is your point exactly?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19636 on: August 07, 2026, 11:30:57 PM »
You?re still not answering the question.  Why are the 5 strategic attack scenarios in the article invalid in your view and don?t just spout because US propaganda, give me some actual refutations.

Neither are you. I asked you to explain why Russia would attack Europe, prior to the Ukraine civil war? What would be the purpose?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19637 on: August 07, 2026, 11:33:24 PM »
And are repeated in the wikipedia entry I posted.  What is your point exactly?

That you conflated civil war with genocide. When I never claimed there was a genocide. There is a genocide in Gaza however, funded & armed by the US.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19638 on: August 07, 2026, 11:37:53 PM »
Maybe Russia wanted to build massive pipelines into Europe to sell them loads of gas, then later, invade Europe & steal all the gas back from them & then sell it to someone else.
Facetious nonsense as usual.  Do you reject the notion that Russia has interfered in our politics, breached our security and threatened to destroy our vital infrastructure?  Are you unable to imagine how a weakened Europe, riven with internal division, crippled by financial crises, supply chain failures and failing infrastructure and fearful of terrorist attacks and assassinations on our soil might play out massively to Russia?s advantage?  Do you think Russia is incapable of carrying out exactly the kind of tactics you accuse the  USA of perpetrating against Russia? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19639 on: August 07, 2026, 11:39:52 PM »
Neither are you. I asked you to explain why Russia would attack Europe, prior to the Ukraine civil war? What would be the purpose?
I?ve already given you 5 good reasons in the article I posted.  I mean I could have re-written them all out in my own words but what would have been the point of that when the article put it so much better than I could?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19640 on: August 07, 2026, 11:41:16 PM »
That you conflated civil war with genocide. When I never claimed there was a genocide. There is a genocide in Gaza however, funded & armed by the US.
What were the Nazis famed for?  Didn?t you repeatedly mention the word ?de-nazification? in your posts or was that some other troll?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19641 on: August 07, 2026, 11:41:39 PM »
Facetious nonsense as usual.  Do you reject the notion that Russia has interfered in our politics, breached our security and threatened to destroy our vital infrastructure?  Are you unable to imagine how a weakened Europe, riven with internal division, crippled by financial crises, supply chain failures and failing infrastructure and fearful of terrorist attacks and assassinations on our soil might play out massively to Russia?s advantage?  Do you think Russia is incapable of carrying out exactly the kind of tactics you accuse the  USA of perpetrating against Russia?

Is it capable? Anyone is capable. But there are logistical limitations. It has taken Russia 4 years to capture an area where it's population are majority pro Russian. It might take them a while longer to take reach a Russo phobic Sc..thorpe however, based on that rate of progress. So I think we'll be ok.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19642 on: August 07, 2026, 11:47:25 PM »
What were the Nazis famed for?  Didn?t you repeatedly mention the word ?de-nazification? in your posts or was that some other troll?

De Nazification was the stated aim of the SMO. The East Ukranians are majority Stepan Bandera fans. There are statues of the Nazi collaborator. That's what Ukranian Nationalism is. Remember how Canada invited a Ukranian soldier to it's parliament & celebrated him bravely fighting the Russians during WW2? The West supports Nazis in Ukraine. It arms them. Boris Johnson has been pictured with the Azov Battalion & their Nazi insignia.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19643 on: August 07, 2026, 11:49:11 PM »
Is it capable? Anyone is capable. But there are logistical limitations. It has taken Russia 4 years to capture an area where it's population are majority pro Russian. It might take them a while longer to take reach a Russo phobic Sc..thorpe however, based on that rate of progress. So I think we'll be ok.
I?m talking about a land invasion as well you know, so you?re just evading the question, and repeatedly.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19644 on: August 07, 2026, 11:49:58 PM »
I?ve already given you 5 good reasons in the article I posted.  I mean I could have re-written them all out in my own words but what would have been the point of that when the article put it so much better than I could?

No you gave me attack scenarios post the start of the war. We are arming Ukraine & so are now complicit. But prior to the Ukraine war, what would have been the benefit to Russia in attacking it's biggest energy customers?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19645 on: August 07, 2026, 11:50:19 PM »
De Nazification was the stated aim of the SMO. The East Ukranians are majority Stepan Bandera fans. There are statues of the Nazi collaborator. That's what Ukranian Nationalism is. Remember how Canada invited a Ukranian soldier to it's parliament & celebrated him bravely fighting the Russians during WW2? The West supports Nazis in Ukraine. It arms them. Boris Johnson has been pictured with the Azov Battalion & their Nazi insignia.
Again, swerving the point.  I?m off to bed so you?ll have to bark at the moon for the rest of the evening.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19646 on: August 07, 2026, 11:52:08 PM »
Again, swerving the point.  I?m off to bed so you?ll have to bark at the moon for the rest of the evening.

You can't answer the simple questions. Have a good sleep & think about it & see if you can come up with a reason why Russia would want to attack it's biggest energy customers prior to the Ukraine war.
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Offline Joe Blogs

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« Reply #19647 on: Today at 12:08:06 AM »
More claims about Epstein and Madeleine McCann over on Twitter.
Amy Winehouse phone recordings have apparently surfaced where she accuses John Podesta of abducting Maddie.
This was a few weeks before she died!

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19648 on: Today at 12:11:26 AM »
More claims about Epstein and Madeleine McCann over on Twitter.
Amy Winehouse phone recordings have apparently surfaced where she accuses John Podesta of abducting Maddie.
This was a few weeks before she died!

Amy Winehouse was probably smoking crack again.
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