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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19740 on: August 10, 2026, 09:28:14 PM »
It matters not who won or lost but how you play the game, or something or other.
Seriously VS, try listening to a respected US economist who isn't funded by the CIA. It'll take you less than 15 mins at 2x speed & totally destroys Trump. You'll like it I promise. It covers quite a few things. This isn't some crackpot conspiracy theorist. He is a world renown economist & analyst....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYADWPyAmU
No.  There?s no point.  I already accept everything you say is correct.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19741 on: August 10, 2026, 09:43:15 PM »
No.  There?s no point.  I already accept everything you say is correct.

I'm not trying to 'Win'. We grow by challenging our world view. Eg, I thought Trump would be better than Hilary due to Hilary's track record of murdering people around the world & Trump offering something different. I was wrong. He followed the same path as every President. Hostage to US imperialism & the Military Industrial Complex. Post 2016 I grew to understand this by simply challenging my assumptions. I'm not saying Russia is innocent. What I'm saying is, neither is the US & it's worth listening to both sides & then drawing logical conclusions. FYI, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the US declares World War before the end of Trumps term & suspends elections.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19742 on: August 10, 2026, 09:55:43 PM »

It is estimated that for $20-30 Billion dollars the US could end all homelessness in the country. That'll never happen. But, there is a $1.5 Trillion military budget next year. The Biden administration sent $66 billion to Ukraine, rather than ending all homelessness & telling Ukraine to just negotiate.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19743 on: August 10, 2026, 10:22:16 PM »
I'm not trying to 'Win'. We grow by challenging our world view. Eg, I thought Trump would be better than Hilary due to Hilary's track record of murdering people around the world & Trump offering something different. I was wrong. He followed the same path as every President. Hostage to US imperialism & the Military Industrial Complex. Post 2016 I grew to understand this by simply challenging my assumptions. I'm not saying Russia is innocent. What I'm saying is, neither is the US & it's worth listening to both sides & then drawing logical conclusions. FYI, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the US declares World War before the end of Trumps term & suspends elections.
I?ve never argued that the USA is innocent.  They are completely f..ked up, especially now but they are also our most powerful ally, what are we supposed to do?
I was reading an article today about drone warfare and how it is now technically possible to coordinate thousands of drones to attack a target, just using by one operator or by AI.  Drones can carry explosives, nerve agents, nuclear material and they are cheap to produce and difficult to shoot down en masse.  I was saying drones were bad news for humanity over a dozen years ago and so it has come to pass.  No one, anywhere will be safe from these things, robot wars are the future and soldiers, rockets and tanks will soon be a thing of the past. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19744 on: August 10, 2026, 10:28:55 PM »
I?ve never argued that the USA is innocent.  They are completely f..ked up, especially now but they are also our most powerful ally, what are we supposed to do?
I was reading an article today about drone warfare and how it is now technically possible to coordinate thousands of drones to attack a target, just using by one operator or by AI.  Drones can carry explosives, nerve agents, nuclear material and they are cheap to produce and difficult to shoot down en masse.  I was saying drones were bad news for humanity over a dozen years ago and so it has come to pass.  No one, anywhere will be safe from these things, robot wars are the future and soldiers, rockets and tanks will soon be a thing of the past.

Yeah, just think, Bush & Blair bare face lied about WMD's in Iraq. So, just be open to question what else the US/UK might lie to us about? But yes, WW1, Machine Gun, caused a near stalemate. WW2, Tanks, Aircraft carriers, now pretty much obsolete as the Iran War shows. Aircraft carriers are floating targets unable to get close enough to fire. WW3, Drones. The US has invested in obsolete aircraft carriers & it cannot produce drones quite fast enough yet compared to low cost effective Iranian drones. US drones cost too much & it it has too much debt to effectively ramp up production compared to Russia, China, Iran.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19745 on: August 10, 2026, 10:30:07 PM »

Many of the US critical minerals required in advanced missiles & drones are produced in China. The US will need to buy from China to fight China.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19746 on: August 15, 2026, 10:36:13 PM »
The Jason Arday plagarism row is quite hilarious & highlights something I said previously. Institutions are promoting black people based on the colour of their skin & not the quality of their work or anything else. It has backfired spectacularly here. Jason Cofnas, the former professor who scrutinised Arday's work & found the plagiarism was heavily protested & is now unemployable. Describing himself as a race realist. Having studied IQ & race he once wrote in a paper that....

"Under a colorblind system that judged applicants only by academic qualifications, blacks would make up 0.7% of Harvard students. (Even that might be an overestimate, since high-school credentials are sometimes given a boost by affirmative action.) In a meritocracy, Harvard faculty would be recruited from the best of the best students, which means the number of black professors would approach 0%. Blacks would disappear from almost all high-profile positions outside of sports and entertainment."

Jason Arday leaves behind a family, friends & children who loved him. So, not only was he a complete fraudster, fantasist & plagarist. He was also a totally selfish coward. He claimed, & so do his family, that the allegations against were a campaign of misinformation. If that were true then Cambridge Universities investigation would have proven that. He would have kept his job & reputation because all the allegations would be proven false. Instead, he decided to top himself rather than wait a few months to be exonerated. His kids will now grow up without a father because he was a selfish lying fraudster.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19747 on: August 15, 2026, 11:05:27 PM »
Jason Arday leaves behind a family, friends & children who loved him. So, not only was he a complete fraudster, fantasist & plagarist. He was also a totally selfish coward. He claimed, & so do his family, that the allegations against were a campaign of misinformation. If that were true then Cambridge Universities investigation would have proven that. He would have kept his job & reputation because all the allegations would be proven false. Instead, he decided to top himself rather than wait a few months to be exonerated. His kids will now grow up without a father because he was a selfish lying fraudster.
Intense media scrutiny and public shaming led to his death, in much the same way as it led to the deaths of Caroline Flack and Brenda Leyland.  I seem to recall that when Brenda Leyland killed herself the blame for her death was laid squarely at the door of the media and Martin Brunt in particular, and she didn?t have to put up with nearly as much humiliation as Arday did over the last few weeks, nearly 40 separate articles about his misdemeanours in the Times alone.  I don?t think any of them were cowards, I just think everyone has theor breaking point when publicly shamed in such a manner.  Some people though are incredibly strong and resilient in the face of such relentless public scorn and media attention, the McCanns for example.  I guess you?d have to call them brave in the face of such adversity if you think killing youself in such circumstances is cowardly.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19748 on: Today at 03:54:26 AM »
Intense media scrutiny and public shaming led to his death, in much the same way as it led to the deaths of Caroline Flack and Brenda Leyland.  I seem to recall that when Brenda Leyland killed herself the blame for her death was laid squarely at the door of the media and Martin Brunt in particular, and she didn?t have to put up with nearly as much humiliation as Arday did over the last few weeks, nearly 40 separate articles about his misdemeanours in the Times alone.  I don?t think any of them were cowards, I just think everyone has theor breaking point when publicly shamed in such a manner.  Some people though are incredibly strong and resilient in the face of such relentless public scorn and media attention, the McCanns for example.  I guess you?d have to call them brave in the face of such adversity if you think killing youself in such circumstances is cowardly.

And 'why' was Arday under intense media scrutiny? Because he was compulsive liar all his life. Elevated to a prestigious position because of his lies & the colour of his skin. He had no skills whatsoever to fall back on when his game was up. Even his resignation letter was partly AI generated, according to the former professor who outed him. Arday was a complete waste of space who, without DEI, would only have been qualified to work as a bin man. He didn't even love his family enough to stay alive for them. What an absolute selfish coward. But he'll be elevated to a saintly position by the media now because criticising black people for anything is considered racist. Even when that criticism is entirely warranted.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19749 on: Today at 06:13:42 AM »

Brenda Leyland was neither a fantasist nor liar. Her only alleged crime was not being very nice about the McCanns on twitter. Her & thousands of other people. A group of fat miserable women with lumpy legs & nothing better to do in their frustrated menopausal lives decided to hand the police & the media a dossier of alleged crimes against the McCanns. No one was ever prosecuted however because being nasty about the McCanns is not a criminal offence.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19750 on: Today at 06:30:04 AM »

The difference with the McCanns is, they are still getting away with their scam. Many people still believe that Madeleine was abducted. The media are largely compliant with the McCanns story, ever since the archiving summary. When The Sunday Times dare cast doubt with the Smith E-Fits they were slapped down by Carter Ruck. Same slippery f..kers that protected Jason Arday as it happens.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19751 on: Today at 07:58:14 AM »
And 'why' was Arday under intense media scrutiny? Because he was compulsive liar all his life. Elevated to a prestigious position because of his lies & the colour of his skin. He had no skills whatsoever to fall back on when his game was up. Even his resignation letter was partly AI generated, according to the former professor who outed him. Arday was a complete waste of space who, without DEI, would only have been qualified to work as a bin man. He didn't even love his family enough to stay alive for them. What an absolute selfish coward. But he'll be elevated to a saintly position by the media now because criticising black people for anything is considered racist. Even when that criticism is entirely warranted.
It?s almost as if you knew him personally and he had completely f..ked your life up, the level of vitriol you?re exhibiting.  Funnily enough, most people who knew and worked with him spoke very highly of him as a warm, loving, funny, kind man, so not a complete waste of skin.  Will people say the same about you when you kick the bucket?  Judging from your posts on here I?d say that?s highly unlikely .
Let?s face facts - you?re using this guy?s life and death to further your own racist agenda.  He would be of zero interest to you if he had been white.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19752 on: Today at 08:01:28 AM »
Brenda Leyland was neither a fantasist nor liar. Her only alleged crime was not being very nice about the McCanns on twitter. Her & thousands of other people. A group of fat miserable women with lumpy legs & nothing better to do in their frustrated menopausal lives decided to hand the police & the media a dossier of alleged crimes against the McCanns. No one was ever prosecuted however because being nasty about the McCanns is not a criminal offence.
Her son seemed to think otherwise, however that?s really not the point.  The point YOU made was that killing yourself in the face of intense media scrutiny and public shaming is the coward?s way out.  Arday wasn?t prosecuted for lying about his achievements either, and nor would he have been.  Being a fantasist is not a crime.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #19753 on: Today at 08:05:40 AM »
The difference with the McCanns is, they are still getting away with their scam. Many people still believe that Madeleine was abducted. The media are largely compliant with the McCanns story, ever since the archiving summary. When The Sunday Times dare cast doubt with the Smith E-Fits they were slapped down by Carter Ruck. Same slippery f..kers that protected Jason Arday as it happens.
Again, completely (and deliberately) missing the point.  They bravely faced down all the crap published in the media for many months, the years of  millions of vile public comments online and in real life, the stalking and intimidation, etc by not taking what YOU described as the coward?s way out.  If Arday is a coward then so is Leyland and the McCanns are brave.  You can?t have it any other way really.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19754 on: Today at 08:14:07 AM »
It?s almost as if you knew him personally and he had completely f..ked your life up, the level of vitriol you?re exhibiting.  Funnily enough, most people who knew and worked with him spoke very highly of him as a warm, loving, funny, kind man, so not a complete waste of skin.  Will people say the same about you when you kick the bucket?  Judging from your posts on here I?d say that?s highly unliky.
Let?s face facts - you?re using this guy?s life and death to further your own racist agenda.  He would be of zero interest to you if he had been white.

I don't agree with DEI. It is racist agenda against White people, Chinese/East Asian people & pretty much every other race except black people. I'm sick to the death of the constant barrage. They make up just 5% of the UK population but are rammed down our throats constantly by being significantly overrepresented in media & advertising. I didn't mind black people quite so much before DEI but I've really had enough of it now. If society were operated as colour blind meritocracy that would be the sensible thing to do. The Jason Arday affair proves that shoving black people into positions to further a politically correct agenda has disastrous consequences. Furthermore, Arday's family & friends must have known the guy was full of shit & tall stories, but it appears they didn't dissuade him from perpetuating a bunch of unbelievable falsehoods about his health conditions & incredible athletic abilities. His family are complicit.
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