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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #20280 on: August 29, 2026, 10:14:40 AM »

Plus I don't think Maddie weighed 25kg either. She certainly didn't look obese. I thought closer to 15kg & according to the stats the average weight for a four year old girl is around 15-16kg. From the size of Maddie, her height as shown in her last photos I suspect she was on the lower-middle weight range and closer to 15kg at most.
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« Reply #20281 on: August 29, 2026, 11:11:49 AM »
Plus I don't think Maddie weighed 25kg either. She certainly didn't look obese. I thought closer to 15kg & according to the stats the average weight for a four year old girl is around 15-16kg. From the size of Maddie, her height as shown in her last photos I suspect she was on the lower-middle weight range and closer to 15kg at most.

Just explain to me WHERE Gerry is supposed to have hidden Madeleine the first time and WHERE Gerry is supposed to have hidden her the second time.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20282 on: August 29, 2026, 11:34:40 AM »
Plus I don't think Maddie weighed 25kg either. She certainly didn't look obese. I thought closer to 15kg & according to the stats the average weight for a four year old girl is around 15-16kg. From the size of Maddie, her height as shown in her last photos I suspect she was on the lower-middle weight range and closer to 15kg at most.
Yes, I got that wrong but it?s still quite a weight to be carrying up and over a chain link fence, assuming you believe her body was dumped on the fenced off wasteland a few minutes walk from the apartment.  It would certainly slow you down, and if it was a dead body you?d certainly need two arms to suport it, making looking at your watch at the precise moment you were spotted, in the dark, quite difficult.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20283 on: August 29, 2026, 04:44:40 PM »
Let?s put the significance of 10.03pm to bed once and for all.  If Gerry had had the presence of mind and ability to read his watch at the precise moment he was seen by the Smiths and 10.03 was of such vital importance to his alibi, why did he not mention this time as the time Kate left the table in his first statement?  Why was it not written down on the timeline they all compiled that night?   Why did it only make an appearance a week later in his second statement?  Why having all agreed that the alarm was raised around 10pm in the aftermath, would Gerry deliberately try and shift the narrative by nealy 15 minutes, thus inevitably drawing suspicion to himself as umpteen witnesses including OC and creche staff would know that time was incorrect?  Why is that specific time not even mentioned in Kate?s book?  The Smiths had not even come forward a whole week after Madeleine?s disappearance so if he had been seen by them he would have had good reason to feel a bit more relaxed that he had gotten away with it and there would have been no need to invent the 10.03pm alibi of Kate leaving the table.  Furthermore had he insisted that the alarm was raised at 10.13pm then that actually gives him ample opportunity in theory to have been seen by the Smiths so trying to suggest it was then effectively destroys his own alibi.
No, this is a complete red herring, it?s not even a verbatim record of what Gerry said, merely a third person recounting of what was spoken in English and translated into Portuguese.  But this is how conspiracy theories are consttucted.  Take one tiny detail and weave a whole narrative around it to suit the conspiracy agenda.   People are human, they make mistakes, they misspeak, they mishear, they mistype, but these little discrepancies are the food that fuels the conspiracy industry online.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20284 on: August 29, 2026, 06:33:00 PM »
Just explain to me WHERE Gerry is supposed to have hidden Madeleine the first time and WHERE Gerry is supposed to have hidden her the second time.
Another question might also be - why move the body from the first location and double the chances of being caught red handed with a corpse and another question might be why not dump the body in a bin at 9pm instead of 10pm? It was dark by 9pm after all . . .
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20285 on: September 02, 2026, 08:25:24 AM »
For anyone still convinced that Hans Christian Wolters was sacked or relagated to handing out parking tickets it appears he is still chief public prosecutor and press spokesperson at Braunschweig PP Office

https://staatsanwaltschaft-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de/startseite/aktuelles/pressekontakte/pressekontakte-170423.html
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #20286 on: September 03, 2026, 10:55:52 AM »
Yes, I got that wrong but it?s still quite a weight to be carrying up and over a chain link fence, assuming you believe her body was dumped on the fenced off wasteland a few minutes walk from the apartment.  It would certainly slow you down, and if it was a dead body you?d certainly need two arms to suport it, making looking at your watch at the precise moment you were spotted, in the dark, quite difficult.

Looking at your watch just as you passsed the Smiths would be impossible, why?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #20287 on: September 03, 2026, 10:59:12 AM »

There were over 500 arrests at the UK's largest celebration of black culture. Compared to just 50 arrests at Britains largest far right demonstration. In hurricane zones, people have to board up their windows & leave their houses when a hurricane is coming. In Notting Hill, local residents have to board up their windows & leave town when there are lots black people coming.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #20288 on: September 03, 2026, 11:04:45 AM »
Just explain to me WHERE Gerry is supposed to have hidden Madeleine the first time and WHERE Gerry is supposed to have hidden her the second time.

It's impossible to know exactly. But it is possible that alarm before 10pm, Gerry off searching alone, gets seen by the Smiths. That is possible. The reason it is possible is because that's what happened.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #20289 on: September 03, 2026, 11:07:56 AM »
For anyone still convinced that Hans Christian Wolters was sacked or relagated to handing out parking tickets it appears he is still chief public prosecutor and press spokesperson at Braunschweig PP Office

https://staatsanwaltschaft-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de/startseite/aktuelles/pressekontakte/pressekontakte-170423.html

Good for him. He isn't charging Brueckner though. That simply isn't happening. The reason it isn't happening is because the McCanns did it.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20290 on: September 03, 2026, 05:10:18 PM »
Looks like Spam has something in common with Diane Abbott, strange bedfellows to say the least!

https://www.thenational.scot/news/26518924.diane-abbott-attacked-claim-russia-threat-nato-fiction/
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20291 on: September 03, 2026, 05:13:14 PM »
Looking at your watch just as you passsed the Smiths would be impossible, why?
I think you?ll find I used the words ?quite difficult ? not impossible but the whole 10.03pm thing is a complete nonsense anyway as I havr already demonstrated.  I?m not going to keep on going over it, just read my last few posts, I raise some pertinent questions, perhaps address those with logical and plausible explanations and we can take it from there.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20292 on: September 03, 2026, 05:14:07 PM »
Good for him. He isn't charging Brueckner though. That simply isn't happening. The reason it isn't happening is because the McCanns did it.
No they didn?t.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20293 on: September 03, 2026, 05:16:48 PM »
There were over 500 arrests at the UK's largest celebration of black culture. Compared to just 50 arrests at Britains largest far right demonstration. In hurricane zones, people have to board up their windows & leave their houses when a hurricane is coming. In Notting Hill, local residents have to board up their windows & leave town when there are lots black people coming.
O.025% of attendees (based on an estimated 2 million attendees over the long weekend) were arrested.  How many attended Britain?s largest far right demonstration?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #20294 on: September 03, 2026, 05:56:12 PM »
It's impossible to know exactly. But it is possible that alarm before 10pm, Gerry off searching alone, gets seen by the Smiths. That is possible. The reason it is possible is because that's what happened.
It?s not possible and it didn?t happen.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".