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Offline Brietta

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #300 on: March 23, 2016, 11:40:06 PM »
The McCanns got the e-fits in mid-November 2008

Thank you.

That's the key fact.

The first investigation was shelved in early August 2008,

There was no excuse for releasing the efit publicly before commencement of the second joint enquiry.

And Scotland Yard (obviously in possession of the efits by then) chose the moment of the Crimewatch programme to release it.

No wonder the McCanns sued the hide off The Times (so-called) Insight team (Heidi and Blake) ....

Sunday Times apologises and agrees to pay Kate and Gerry McCann £55,000 in libel damages

The Sunday Times has agreed to pay Kate and Gerry McCann £55,000 in libel damages (all of which they will donate to two charities - Missing People and the Joe Humphries Memorial Trust).

Mr and Mrs McCann's complaint related to an article by the Sunday Times' "Insight" team published on the front page of the newspaper in October 2013.
The article alleged that Mr and Mrs McCann and Madeleine's Fund had kept secret from the investigating authorities crucial evidence (primarily consisting of "e-fits" obtained by private investigators) relating to their
daughter's abduction.

The Sunday Times' allegations were completely false. As the newspaper now accepts, there is no question of the McCanns having sought to suppress any evidence; indeed all of the material collated by the private investigators had been provided to the relevant Portuguese and Leicestershire police four years earlier. The private investigators' report (including the e-fits) was also provided to the Metropolitan Police in 2011 shortly after the Met commenced its review into Madeleine's disappearance.
http://www.carter-ruck.com/images/uploads/documents/McCann-Press_Release-03102014.PDF
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #301 on: March 23, 2016, 11:45:29 PM »

Polite reminder ... the subject of the thread is ... 'Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?'
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #302 on: March 24, 2016, 12:00:10 AM »
No one sat on anything.



What do you call not giving the efits and report to police for a year then, pdq action?

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #303 on: March 24, 2016, 12:03:27 AM »
Polite reminder ... the subject of the thread is ... 'Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?'

Point taken but  whch leaves me wondering why you posted carter rucks version of the times article before your polte reminder..and why a pst of mne detailing facts was removed...never mind.....ps carter rucks article is in contrast to what the times actually printed but thats pr law for you
Right, enough for one day, silent as a sheep here till tomorrow


Offline misty

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #304 on: March 24, 2016, 01:33:31 AM »
The apartment was fully furnished.
And the luggage taken into apartment on arrival must have been at least 2x15kg and 2x5kg which would make 40 kg.

Which items of furniture that weren't checked (according to witness statements) would be viable propositions for concealing a 4 year old after the alarm had been raised yet failed to produce a cadaver alert 3 months later?

ferryman

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #305 on: March 24, 2016, 05:54:54 AM »
The private investigators' report (including the e-fits) was also provided to the Metropolitan Police in 2011 shortly after the Met commenced its review into Madeleine's disappearance.

Thank you Brietta.

The dogs didn't alert to any of Gerry's clothes because there was no scent (within either dogs' scent-range) for them to detect.

Let's hope fervently that the second joint enquiry bears fruit in bringing to book Madeleine's abductor (and, perhaps, identifying perpetrators of other crimes against children, too) ....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #306 on: March 24, 2016, 07:30:39 AM »
The private investigators' report (including the e-fits) was also provided to the Metropolitan Police in 2011 shortly after the Met commenced its review into Madeleine's disappearance.

Thank you Brietta.

The dogs didn't alert to any of Gerry's clothes because there was no scent (within either dogs' scent-range) for them to detect.

Let's hope fervently that the second joint enquiry bears fruit in bringing to book Madeleine's abductor (and, perhaps, identifying perpetrators of other crimes against children, too) ....

Yet they alerted to Kate's.
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ferryman

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #307 on: March 24, 2016, 07:39:48 AM »
Yet they alerted to Kate's.

No.

One dog barked and picked stuff of Kate's up its mouth.

After ignoring the same clothing in the villa.

Completely different.

Offline Lace

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #308 on: March 24, 2016, 08:41:46 AM »
No.

One dog barked and picked stuff of Kate's up its mouth.

After ignoring the same clothing in the villa.

Completely different.

Which can't really be taken as an alert,  it looked as though he was playing with them to me,   a cadaver dog is trained not to touch the evidence.

stephen25000

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #309 on: March 24, 2016, 08:54:19 AM »
No.

One dog barked and picked stuff of Kate's up its mouth.

After ignoring the same clothing in the villa.

Completely different.

You are not an expert in any way as regards the use of forensic dogs.

You weren't there when the dogs were deployed.

You are merely giving your biased opinions for a well known reason.

Anything to defend the mccanns, who left their precious daughter and her siblings in unnecessary danger.

That is also why you keep repeating 'abductor', for without one,  what is left ? &%+((£


ferryman

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #310 on: March 24, 2016, 08:55:38 AM »
With all due respect to Alfred, the question of why clothing was inspected at all is much more interesting (and the answer, much more revealing) than the question of why there was no alert to any of Gerry's clothing.

But, of course, that discussion is not allowed on here ....

Offline Benice

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #311 on: March 24, 2016, 09:16:56 AM »
You are not an expert in any way as regards the use of forensic dogs.

You weren't there when the dogs were deployed.

You are merely giving your biased opinions for a well known reason.

Anything to defend the mccanns, who left their precious daughter and her siblings in unnecessary danger.

That is also why you keep repeating 'abductor', for without one,  what is left ? &%+((£

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stephen25000

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #312 on: March 24, 2016, 09:25:43 AM »
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Offline pegasus

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #313 on: March 24, 2016, 01:03:49 PM »
IMO alert 1 is probably to one of these items
( source: http://youtu.be/c4NMYPsFKb8?t=4m0s  )

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #314 on: March 24, 2016, 01:12:30 PM »
Polite reminder ... the subject of the thread is ... 'Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?'

What was he wearing at the tapas restaurant on 3 May 2007?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.