Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?

[pegasus]

Why didn't Eddie alert to CC later at the gymnasium?

Very good question Misty. IMO the cat was never alerted to.

[ferryman]

CC like clothes are screened separately. It was photographed on the bed at the crime scene. IMO CC was touched after handling the body which has happened in previous cases where Eddie has alerted e.g. a suspects diary. Most of these scent alerts can only be proved from confessions. These alerts are intelligence to help the police.

Why could Eddie detect a 'scent' to the toy (in a cupboard) he could find no trace of when it was in front of his nose and he could pick it up and play with it?

Why did Eddie play with it?

Why was Grime's request that the toy be forensically examined ignored?

[stephen25000]

Why could Eddie detect a 'scent' to the toy (in a cupboard) he could find no trace of when it was in front of his nose and he could pick it up and play with it?

Why did Eddie play with it?

Why was Grime's request that the toy be forensically examined ignored?

That post shows you are completely unaware of how dogs behave and how they are trained.

[ferryman]

That post shows you are completely unaware of how dogs behave and how they are trained.

Sadly, the mores of this board preclude me from expounding on what my (earlier) post actually shows ...

[ferryman]

Very good question Misty. IMO the cat was never alerted to.

Was the toy tested in the gym?

I didn't think it was?

[misty]

Was the toy tested in the gym?

I didn't think it was?

See post #414.
Why was it taken if it wasn't to be tested?

[pegasus]

Why could Eddie detect a 'scent' to the toy (in a cupboard) he could find no trace of when it was in front of his nose and he could pick it up and play with it?

Why did Eddie play with it?

Why was Grime's request that the toy be forensically examined ignored?

I am in 100% agreement with Ferryman about the toy.
The plain fact, obvious in the dog video, is: Eddie never alerted to it.

[ferryman]

See post #414.
Why was it taken if it wasn't to be tested?

Yep!

Examination of clothes collected from the Vista Mar Villa, 02 August 2007

Included in the list of (loosely termed 'clothes') is, indeed, cuddle-cat.

So there is a still deeper mystery.

Eddie didn't alert to the toy when it was in front of his nose and he could see it, pick it up and play with it (and why did he play with it)?

He could (apparently!) detect it a scent on it when it was hidden in a cupboard (attested by Grime in his rogatory interview, where he said 'EVRD' (spit!) 'marked' the toy).

And the toy was packed, taken to the gym and either ignored by Eddie (in the gym) or simply not laid out in the gym for Eddie  to inspect (in which case, why bother taking it there)?

Mystery upon mystery .....

[mercury]

I am in 100% agreement with Ferryman about the toy.
The plain fact, obvious in the dog video, is: Eddie never alerted to it.

So you believe you know better than a seasoned dog trainer/handler Pegs?

From MG's report
CANINE SEARCH OF MR MCCANNS VILLA, PRESENT OCCUPANCY
The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.


From MG's Rogatory interview:
Can you confirm if the signal given regarding the stuffed toy corresponds to a concrete alert of detection of a cadaver, or a mere trick played by the dog''
The dogs were not taught any 'tricks'. EVRD 'signalled' the toy, which at my request was retained by the Judicial Police for future forensic analysis. I have no knowledge of the results of any forensic analysis on the toy.

[pegasus]

The reward object in Eddie's training was not a soft toy.
It was a tennis ball.

[ferryman]

So you believe you know better than a seasoned dog trainer/handler Pegs?

From MG's report
CANINE SEARCH OF MR MCCANNS VILLA, PRESENT OCCUPANCY
The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.


From MG's Rogatory interview:
Can you confirm if the signal given regarding the stuffed toy corresponds to a concrete alert of detection of a cadaver, or a mere trick played by the dog''
The dogs were not taught any 'tricks'. EVRD 'signalled' the toy, which at my request was retained by the Judicial Police for future forensic analysis. I have no knowledge of the results of any forensic analysis on the toy.

Why does John Lowe's report contain no reference to the toy?

A rhetorical question.

I believe there is, somewhere in the files, a reference to items returned to the McCanns after the inspection at the gym?

Does the list include the 'cuddle-cat' toy?

I believe it does.

I'm sure Mysty can find that.

[ferryman]

The reward object in Eddie's training was not a soft toy.
It was a tennis ball.

Thank you pegasus.

[mercury]

The reward object in Eddie's training was not a soft toy.
It was a tennis ball.

Was that to me?

[pegasus]

So you believe you know better than a seasoned dog trainer/handler Pegs? (snip)

In this instance, yes (unless there is something not shown in the villa video).
First it's important to remember that Eddie did not alert in the north bedroom. So if you believe Eddie alerted to the toy, that would automatically be intelligence that KM misrepresented the scene at 10pm wouldn't it? And I am convinced she didn't. In the villa video it's obvious IMO that Eddie does not alert to the toy (unless the toy is on that dining chair). This is welcome confirmation of what I already worked out - the scene in the north bedroom at 10pm was truthfully described IMO Merc.

[ferryman]

In this instance, yes (unless there is something not shown in the villa video).
First it's important to remember that Eddie did not alert in the north bedroom. So if you believe Eddie alerted to the toy, that would automatically be intelligence that KM misrepresented the scene at 10pm wouldn't it? And I am convinced she didn't. In the villa video it's obvious that Eddie does not alert to the toy. This is welcome confirmation of what I already worked out - the scene in the north bedroom at 10pm was truthfully described IMO Merc.

Shrewd post.