IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...

[xtina]

this photo has often puzzled me its as if it could be fake on all the discrepancies it shows ....to me its like a spot the mistakes picture ...so many things wrong about this photo ..it deserves a thread of its own

in the last so called photo maddie is practically white ...as you would expect children to be [factor 50 etc]...yet look fully tanned on the tennis photo...apart from her hand

we don't know who took it ....or on what day ..there are discrepancies ...as to it being.took on .....Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday

who's was the camera that took it.....no other photo's took at the same time  ....   

if maddie had been playing tennis....she would not have been wearing sandals [safety issues etc] it would have been trainers ...we know maddie had a pair

why would she wear that hat .... and be holding adult tennis balls ..not soft ones...what is wrong with her inner hand

her arms are brown ...scratched and bruised ...not seen on last photo

is the pitch wet...and would children's tennis ...be played next to an adult one ...

bruising on her legs ....marks on her arm...this picture just does not add up ....there are several things not right with it ...

it is like a spot the mistakes ..picture..in a magazine...I'm sure other's...can find more




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[ShiningInLuz]

this photo has often puzzled me its as if it could be fake on all the discrepancies it shows ....to me its like a spot the mistakes picture ...so many things wrong about this photo ..it deserves a thread of its own

in the last so called photo maddie is practically white ...as you would expect children to be [factor 50 etc]...yet look fully tanned on the tennis photo...apart from her hand

we don't know who took it ....or on what day ..there are discrepancies ...as to it being.took on .....Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday

who's was the camera that took it.....no other photo's took at the same time  ....   

if maddie had been playing tennis....she would not have been wearing sandals [safety issues etc] it would have been trainers ...we know maddie had a pair

why would she wear that hat .... and be holding adult tennis balls ..not soft ones...what is wrong with her inner hand

her arms are brown ...scratched and bruised ...not seen on last photo

is the pitch wet...and would children's tennis ...be played next to an adult one ...

bruising on her legs ....marks on her arm...this picture just does not add up ....there are several things not right with it ...

it is like a spot the mistakes ..picture..in a magazine...I'm sure other's...can find more

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I do not want to answer all the points, so for the moment, I'll stick to just one.

Trying to apply UK (or similar) health and safety issues in Portugal is a non-starter.

Try Google StreetView on the A22.  It is classed as a motorway.  It would not meet UK standards.  There is a concrete barrier separating the two streams of traffic.  That barrier looks like it would flip a vehicle to the other side in most accidents.  Then look at the safety verge.  It is so narrow that anyone breaking down has to fill around half of the slow lane. 

The Portuguese idea of H&S is perhaps 30 to 50 years behind the UK. 

They are building about 300m from me.  The site is fenced off.  It has a 'gatekeeper' control re workers and deliveries.  It has signs up requiring hard hats, steel toecaps and fluorescent jackets.  All good stuff.  But yesterday they all wandered off and left the gates wide open, so I wandered on-site to see how they were getting on.  An open building site, no control, no hard hat, no metal toe caps, no fluorescent jacket.  Any child could have done the same.

This is Portugal.

The idea that kids don't run in sandals of the type M is wearing just does not pass muster here.  I've got no idea what would happen in the UK, so those sandals might, or might not, scotch the rumour that the photo was taken in the UK.  And whoever took the photo seemed to be OK about the sandals.

[xtina]

I do not want to answer all the points, so for the moment, I'll stick to just one.

Trying to apply UK (or similar) health and safety issues in Portugal is a non-starter.

Try Google StreetView on the A22.  It is classed as a motorway.  It would not meet UK standards.  There is a concrete barrier separating the two streams of traffic.  That barrier looks like it would flip a vehicle to the other side in most accidents.  Then look at the safety verge.  It is so narrow that anyone breaking down has to fill around half of the slow lane. 

The Portuguese idea of H&S is perhaps 30 to 50 years behind the UK. 

They are building about 300m from me.  The site is fenced off.  It has a 'gatekeeper' control re workers and deliveries.  It has signs up requiring hard hats, steel toecaps and fluorescent jackets.  All good stuff.  But yesterday they all wandered off and left the gates wide open, so I wandered on-site to see how they were getting on.  An open building site, no control, no hard hat, no metal toe caps, no fluorescent jacket.  Any child could have done the same.

This is Portugal.

The idea that kids don't run in sandals of the type M is wearing just does not pass muster here.  I've got no idea what would happen in the UK, so those sandals might, or might not, scotch the rumour that the photo was taken in the UK.  And whoever took the photo seemed to be OK about the sandals.

okay.....i didn't actually mean the Portuguese health and safety ...i meant ...parents ...nannies ..etc...etc ...by the look of the sandals there is a quit of bit of room at the front .....as a lot of mums would know ...a tripping hazard in small tots ...

mind you after saying that ....the mccs didn't pay much attention to health safety ....did they ...but you would have thought a nannie would....and deem the not suitable for running round in ...

[G-Unit]

I do not want to answer all the points, so for the moment, I'll stick to just one.

Trying to apply UK (or similar) health and safety issues in Portugal is a non-starter.

Try Google StreetView on the A22.  It is classed as a motorway.  It would not meet UK standards.  There is a concrete barrier separating the two streams of traffic.  That barrier looks like it would flip a vehicle to the other side in most accidents.  Then look at the safety verge.  It is so narrow that anyone breaking down has to fill around half of the slow lane. 

The Portuguese idea of H&S is perhaps 30 to 50 years behind the UK. 

They are building about 300m from me.  The site is fenced off.  It has a 'gatekeeper' control re workers and deliveries.  It has signs up requiring hard hats, steel toecaps and fluorescent jackets.  All good stuff.  But yesterday they all wandered off and left the gates wide open, so I wandered on-site to see how they were getting on.  An open building site, no control, no hard hat, no metal toe caps, no fluorescent jacket.  Any child could have done the same.

This is Portugal.

The idea that kids don't run in sandals of the type M is wearing just does not pass muster here.  I've got no idea what would happen in the UK, so those sandals might, or might not, scotch the rumour that the photo was taken in the UK.  And whoever took the photo seemed to be OK about the sandals.

As such a lot of Mark Warner guests are from the UK I would expect them to be careful about safety using UK standards. It isn't recommended to wear sandals as they are a tripping hazard. They do use different tennis balls for children, which seem to be red and yellow;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gamma-Quick-Tennis-12-Ball-Yellow/dp/B00166T9TA

[pegasus]

The only people wearing flipflops are the two nannies and they are not playing tennis.
The people playing tennis are the coach and one child at a time (they take it in turns) all of whom are wearing sensible non-flipflop footwear. There is no health and safety risk.

[xtina]

The only people wearing flipflops are the two nannies and they are not playing tennis.
The people playing tennis are the coach and one child at a time (they take it in turns) all of whom are wearing sensible non-flipflop footwear. There is no health and safety risk.

we are talking about maddie .....Maddie was wearing sandals ..not sensible at all .

if you look at the picture of maddie

[pegasus]

we are talking about maddie .....Maddie was wearing sandals ..not sensible at all .

if you look at the picture of maddie

Those new sandals have a heel strap and numerous straps on top - they are safe.
Anyway no shoes or sandals were missing, therefore if the child walked out of the apartment to look for her parents she did so barefoot or in socks

[G-Unit]

The question, pegasus is whether children playing tennis would have been allowed to do so in sandals and whether the picture was taken during Mini tennis on Tuesday (or Monday if you look at the activity sheet for the Lobsters; they were in the pool on Tuesday). The balls, for example, are not the safer children's balls, they are adult ones.

[Jean-Pierre]

we are talking about maddie .....Maddie was wearing sandals ..not sensible at all .

if you look at the picture of maddie

OK Constable, add "failure to ensure child is wearing footwear appropriate to tennis, game of" to the charge sheet! 

(Jesus, its a kids game of tennis at a holiday resort, not effing Wimbledon)

[pegasus]

The risk of falling while wearing sandals is irrelevant to solving the case, because they were not missing, see AT statement "she asked the parents whether Madeleine's shoes were there, to which they replied that they were" therefore even in the hypothesis that the child fell it must have been barefoot or in socks.

[xtina]

OK Constable, add "failure to ensure child is wearing footwear appropriate to tennis, game of" to the charge sheet! 

(Jesus, its a kids game of tennis at a holiday resort, not effing Wimbledon)

oi..excuse me .......its not just a game of tennis.... is it though.....just shows how you can find it so trivial ....because it isn't ....

so armchair detective ....when do you reckon the pic was took ....no one else in it...where was Ella ...and who took it....where is all the other photos you would think...would have been took over a period of six days ....when she goes into so much detail ...of two of the five that were took....

like in the last photo ...how stunning maddie looked in her expensive cloths..described in detail ....just to go have them soiled at the creche...

wasn't it  tennis coaches supervised the mini tennis sessions....why say Cat's instructions....as described in her book below


During Gerry’s tennis lesson, Madeleine and Ella came to the adjoining court with their Mini Club for a mini-tennis session.  Jane  and I stayed to watch them.  It chokes me remembering how my heart soared with pride in Madeleine that morning.  She was so happy and obviously enjoying herself.   Standing there listening intently to Cat’s instructions  , she looked so gorgeous in her little T-shirt and shorts, pink hat, ankle socks and new holiday sandals  that I ran back to our apartment for my camera  to record the occasion. One  of my photographs is known around the world now:  a smiling Madeleine clutching armfuls of tennis balls . At the end of their session, the children had been asked to run around the court and pick up as many balls as they could .  Madeleine had done really well and was very pleased with herself.  Gerry loves that picture .

[John]

Didn't one of the other mums in the tapas group say she grabbed her camera and took the snap of Madeleine as she looked so cute.  Cannot remember who that was though?



From Madeleine by Kate McCann (published May 2011)

Tuesday 1st May 2007

During Gerry’s tennis lesson, Madeleine and Ella came to the adjoining court with their Mini Club for a mini-tennis session.  Jane and I stayed to watch them.  It chokes me remembering how my heart soared with pride in Madeleine that morning.  She was so happy and obviously enjoying herself.   Standing there listening intently to Cat’s instructions, she looked so gorgeous in her little T-shirt and shorts, pink hat, ankle socks and new holiday sandals that I ran back to our apartment for my camera to record the occasion. One of my photographs is known around the world now:  a smiling Madeleine clutching armfuls of tennis balls. At the end of their session, the children had been asked to run around the court and pick up as many balls as they could.  Madeleine had done really well and was very pleased with herself.  Gerry loves that picture.

[jassi]

oi..excuse me .......its not just a game of tennis.... is it though.....just shows how you can find it so trivial ....because it isn't ....

so armchair detective ....when do you reckon the pic was took ....no one else in it...where was Ella ...and who took it....where is all the other photos you would think...would have been took over a period of six days ....when she goes into so much detail ...of two of the five that were took....

like in the last photo ...how stunning maddie looked in her expensive cloths..described in detail ....just to go have them soiled at the creche...

wasn't it  tennis coaches supervised the mini tennis sessions....why say Cat's instructions....as described in her book below


During Gerry’s tennis lesson, Madeleine and Ella came to the adjoining court with their Mini Club for a mini-tennis session.  Jane  and I stayed to watch them.  It chokes me remembering how my heart soared with pride in Madeleine that morning.  She was so happy and obviously enjoying herself.   Standing there listening intently to Cat’s instructions  , she looked so gorgeous in her little T-shirt and shorts, pink hat, ankle socks and new holiday sandals  that I ran back to our apartment for my camera  to record the occasion. One  of my photographs is known around the world now:  a smiling Madeleine clutching armfuls of tennis balls . At the end of their session, the children had been asked to run around the court and pick up as many balls as they could .  Madeleine had done really well and was very pleased with herself.  Gerry loves that picture .

Its all balls as the balls used by the children were red and yellow, I believe.

[Brietta]

oi..excuse me .......its not just a game of tennis.... is it though.....just shows how you can find it so trivial ....because it isn't ....

so armchair detective ....when do you reckon the pic was took ....no one else in it...where was Ella ...and who took it....where is all the other photos you would think...would have been took over a period of six days ....when she goes into so much detail ...of two of the five that were took....

like in the last photo ...how stunning maddie looked in her expensive cloths..described in detail ....just to go have them soiled at the creche...

wasn't it  tennis coaches supervised the mini tennis sessions....why say Cat's instructions....as described in her book below


During Gerry’s tennis lesson, Madeleine and Ella came to the adjoining court with their Mini Club for a mini-tennis session.  Jane  and I stayed to watch them.  It chokes me remembering how my heart soared with pride in Madeleine that morning.  She was so happy and obviously enjoying herself.   Standing there listening intently to Cat’s instructions  , she looked so gorgeous in her little T-shirt and shorts, pink hat, ankle socks and new holiday sandals  that I ran back to our apartment for my camera  to record the occasion. One  of my photographs is known around the world now:  a smiling Madeleine clutching armfuls of tennis balls . At the end of their session, the children had been asked to run around the court and pick up as many balls as they could .  Madeleine had done really well and was very pleased with herself.  Gerry loves that picture .

You appear to assume that the Policia Judiciaria were incapable of performing the most elementary tasks which would be expected in the simplest of enquiries but which are fundamental in one as serious as Madeleine's disappearance.

If they did not ask for photographs, they were given them http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm

 ... but I am certain they would be as diligent as their British counterparts in sourcing such important possible evidence for themselves, unless you can suggest the contrary.

Madeleine: Police beg holidaymakers to send photos in
Last updated at 19:54 21 May 2007
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-456741/Madeleine-Police-beg-holidaymakers-send-photos-in.html#ixzz43pwV1XbH

It must be remembered that we have not seen all the information contained in the files.

[misty]

As such a lot of Mark Warner guests are from the UK I would expect them to be careful about safety using UK standards. It isn't recommended to wear sandals as they are a tripping hazard. They do use different tennis balls for children, which seem to be red and yellow;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gamma-Quick-Tennis-12-Ball-Yellow/.... ....../B00166T9TA

How many tennis racquets can you spot in the above photo?