Author Topic: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...  (Read 181595 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Brietta

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2016, 10:41:28 PM »
Thanks Brietta.

That is a lovely video

The original photo appeared to be missing the definitive folds when Madeleine smiled, but I can see them in the video.

I am talking about the crease below the eyes and at the top of her cheeks when she smiles.


And thank you Mercury for your help.

After looking at the photographs in the link Mercury posted I think Madeleine can look amazingly different depending on the camera viewpoint and the angle at which she holds her head.
Of course the photos cover her at various ages.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2016, 01:14:05 PM »
Looking at those photographs haunts me because who could leave those three precious little darlings alone at night in a strange country. Criminal... it really is.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Eleanor

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2016, 01:39:35 PM »
Looking at those photographs haunts me because who could leave those three precious little darlings alone at night in a strange country. Criminal... it really is.

No, it wasn't Criminal.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #64 on: March 26, 2016, 01:47:57 PM »
The CROPPED tennis ball photo is a 'fake' in the sense that it has been photo-edited quite heavily (and IMO, quite poorly) prior to publication.

It is possible to put both the cropped photo and the uncropped photo into any half decent photo editing software to have a look at the light spectrum of each.  I happen to use GIMP.

For the cropped photo, the light spectrum is concentrated very much at the bright end.  For the uncropped photo, it is all below mid-level.

The original is actually quite poor.  Whoever took it should have zoomed in a lot more on Madeleine and dropped a lot of the court.  That means the camera was trying to balance on the green of the court, and Madeleine's colours have suffered as a result.

I am not certain, but it looks like the original was first cropped, then the brightness and contrast adjusted.  It would probably have worked better the other way i.e. adjusting the uncropped image with the original blend of colours, then cropping.  There now seems to be several Photoshopped variants of the cropped variant in circulation.  I don't think it is wise to add another fake photo, so I'll give that experiment a miss.

For those who like the details, I've got the 2 photos and their associated light spectrums ready to go.  I'll stick those up on my blog later today, and those interested can see for themselves.

The bottom line is neither is very good.  The uncropped one has poor colour balance and brightness, and the cropped one is worse.

Basically, one cannot rely on the cropped one as an accurate depiction (colours, brightness etc.).  At the very least, comparison with The Last Photo would require a better job on the uncropped one.  The cropped tennis balls photo has no redeeming feature from a technical viewpoint.
What's up, old man?

Offline jassi

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #65 on: March 26, 2016, 01:55:18 PM »
The CROPPED tennis ball photo is a 'fake' in the sense that it has been photo-edited quite heavily (and IMO, quite poorly) prior to publication.

It is possible to put both the cropped photo and the uncropped photo into any half decent photo editing software to have a look at the light spectrum of each.  I happen to use GIMP.

For the cropped photo, the light spectrum is concentrated very much at the bright end.  For the uncropped photo, it is all below mid-level.

The original is actually quite poor.  Whoever took it should have zoomed in a lot more on Madeleine and dropped a lot of the court.  That means the camera was trying to balance on the green of the court, and Madeleine's colours have suffered as a result.

I am not certain, but it looks like the original was first cropped, then the brightness and contrast adjusted.  It would probably have worked better the other way i.e. adjusting the uncropped image with the original blend of colours, then cropping.  There now seems to be several Photoshopped variants of the cropped variant in circulation.  I don't think it is wise to add another fake photo, so I'll give that experiment a miss.

For those who like the details, I've got the 2 photos and their associated light spectrums ready to go.  I'll stick those up on my blog later today, and those interested can see for themselves.

The bottom line is neither is very good.  The uncropped one has poor colour balance and brightness, and the cropped one is worse.

Basically, one cannot rely on the cropped one as an accurate depiction (colours, brightness etc.).  At the very least, comparison with The Last Photo would require a better job on the uncropped one.  The cropped tennis balls photo has no redeeming feature from a technical viewpoint.


I've never seen the original uncropped photo. Can you put it up on here, or send me a pm?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2016, 02:00:08 PM »
No, it wasn't Criminal.

How do you know? we are told a crime has taken place.. what that crime is we do not know. The parents therefore facilitated a crime- hence- criminal.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline jassi

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2016, 02:01:55 PM »
Certainly morally reprehensible, IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2016, 02:10:58 PM »

I've never seen the original uncropped photo. Can you put it up on here, or send me a pm?
Please see reply 22 in this topic, where the uncropped one was posted.
What's up, old man?

Offline jassi

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #69 on: March 26, 2016, 02:14:15 PM »
Ah, thanks. I thought you meant that it was part of a much bigger picture, rather than just having a bit cropped off the top - one that might have shown Gerry or other people on court.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 02:23:45 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #70 on: March 26, 2016, 02:22:31 PM »
How do you know? we are told a crime has taken place.. what that crime is we do not know. The parents therefore facilitated a crime- hence- criminal.

The McCanns did not commit a Criminal Offence.

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2016, 02:28:12 PM »
The McCanns did not commit a Criminal Offence.

At this point, we do not know who committed a crime in this case, assuming she did not walk out of the apartment herself and then had an accident which involved no one else.

There are several possible permutations as to what could have happened, the unfortunate thing is, there is no evidence of anything that could be pursued in court.

Offline xtina

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2016, 10:34:21 AM »
it has been mentioned ...that the P J was not interested in the photo ...you will find ...1 min into the link ..there was a lot of interest

how can you get over the fact ...that only five pictures were took of maddie ...[on a mini weekend i have just been on i have took about 40 pics as usually you dont take just the one ...you take three or four of the same thing just in case one does not turn out

the vid shows a lot of discrepancies from the statements ....that should not be just ignored...[pointless me writing it when it can be shown]



apparently ...it is mentioned that the shutters were repaired my maintenance men in mccs apartment ....around 6 30..[on vid].so strange there were no finger prints from them....and never seen this mentioned

the tennis court seems wet yet was maddie allowed to run around on wet turf ...if so no scuff marks on socks or sandals

the main point here is .....why do others  claim to have took the photo..when kmcc calls it my pic ...in her book...

was there other photo's ...but wasn't shown for some reason

why is there so much discrepancies ...around this photo ....why do they all remember minute detail.yet one of them is only true...its only a photo .[tennis lesson]what is it suppose to prove .....but if the possibly the truth is not told about this ....what else is being covered up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV4bFKxG2NY
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Benice

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2016, 10:43:57 AM »
Do we actually know for definite how many piccies were taken that week?

Could it be that there are other photos of Madeleine, but which also clearly show other children -  whose parents the McCanns realised -  would not be happy to have their faces put into the public arena?

 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Brietta

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #74 on: April 01, 2016, 10:45:35 AM »
it has been mentioned ...that the P J was not interested in the photo ...you will find ...1 min into the link ..there was a lot of interest

how can you get over the fact ...that only five pictures were took of maddie ...[on a mini weekend i have just been on i have took about 40 pics as usually you dont take just the one ...you take three or four of the same thing just in case one does not turn out

the vid shows a lot of discrepancies from the statements ....that should not be just ignored...[pointless me writing it when it can be shown]



apparently ...it is mentioned that the shutters were repaired my maintenance men in mccs apartment ....around 6 30..[on vid].so strange there were no finger prints from them....and never seen this mentioned

the tennis court seems wet yet was maddie allowed to run around on wet turf ...if so no scuff marks on socks or sandals

the main point here is .....why do others  claim to have took the photo..when kmcc calls it my pic ...in her book...

was there other photo's ...but wasn't shown for some reason

why is there so much discrepancies ...around this photo ....why do they all remember minute detail.yet one of them is only true...its only a photo .[tennis lesson]what is it suppose to prove .....but if the possibly the truth is not told about this ....what else is being covered up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV4bFKxG2NY

I think members have shown conclusively that the conspiracy theory concerning the photograph in question is without foundation and any alleged discrepancy may be entirely in the eye of the beholder.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....