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Offline Eleanor

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #90 on: April 01, 2016, 12:28:09 PM »
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So this is all looking a bit Libellous to me.



any way...............why on earth do you call it fun............do you think by not believing maddie was not abducted its funny..and i am having a laugh...well i can assure you i am not..

what a horrible expression to use ....there is nothing funny about ...wanting to know the truth about what happened to a child ...maddie...its not set in stone maddie was abducted ...no proof ....so you don't know ...what happened to her ....and i sometimes wonder ...if you [others] care...what happened ...as long as the mccs are protected

i believe ....there is something very wrong with ....what surrounds that photo ...same as a hell of a lot more things in this case ...that just do not add up

as for cites ....watch the tape...or look at there statments

I would like to see The Questions and who asked them, about this particular Photo.

What you think of me is of no interest to me.

Offline Lace

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #91 on: April 01, 2016, 12:28:32 PM »

who said it was the thursday ..............if that was the case ....maddie had to be changed before the very last photo...into her bestest cloths ....to go to the creche ...to get them soiled .....

Listen xtina you do know this whole conspiracy is just to sell video's don't you?

A little girl is missing and some are making wild allegations as to what happened they have to come up with something outrageous as that is what gets the publics interest,   sad thing is it is all to make money out of a missing child.

No normal decent people would lie to the police about seeing a child who wasn't there,   there are numerous people who saw Madeleine through the week,   they are normal people who would not lie to protect parents who had hidden their childs body,   their careers and everything they held dear would have been put on the line,  if Madeleine had been found.

Offline Eleanor

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2016, 12:33:06 PM »

so why all the sudden interst .........why take the time to post ...or is it just to defend the mccs...u seem to be out in force ...

.when there has been little activity on the thread ...since last night....why do you all need to defend them so much

Nothing interesting going on at the moment, which is why everyone is getting leeway.  And I have to be here anyway.

Innocent Until Proven Guilty, which we all have right to defend.

Your suggestion that we don't care about Madeleine is insulting.

Offline G-Unit

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2016, 01:04:34 PM »
The photo was in the hands of Pat Perkins, Kate's mother's friend by 7th May, when she attached it to an e-mail she sent out;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAT_PERKINS.htm

In November 2007 the PJ were investigating phone calls to the McCann's phones and went to see the owner of the Pacifico Bar, Vilamoura. He gave them a copy of the e-mail, with the photo, and that seems to be it's only appearance in the PJ Files unless someone knows better?

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Offline Eleanor

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #94 on: April 01, 2016, 01:18:46 PM »
The photo was in the hands of Pat Perkins, Kate's mother's friend by 7th May, when she attached it to an e-mail she sent out;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAT_PERKINS.htm

In November 2007 the PJ were investigating phone calls to the McCann's phones and went to see the owner of the Pacifico Bar, Vilamoura. He gave them a copy of the e-mail, with the photo, and that seems to be it's only appearance in the PJ Files unless someone knows better?

So that's it?  No questions about the photo itself?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #95 on: April 01, 2016, 01:22:33 PM »
The photo was in the hands of Pat Perkins, Kate's mother's friend by 7th May, when she attached it to an e-mail she sent out;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAT_PERKINS.htm

In November 2007 the PJ were investigating phone calls to the McCann's phones and went to see the owner of the Pacifico Bar, Vilamoura. He gave them a copy of the e-mail, with the photo, and that seems to be it's only appearance in the PJ Files unless someone knows better?

Interesting comment in the email you link:
"Police and all of Portugal are trying to find her. The Portuguese people, holidaymakers and expats have been a great support to the family and continue their efforts".
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #96 on: April 01, 2016, 01:25:43 PM »
Listen xtina you do know this whole conspiracy is just to sell video's don't you?

A little girl is missing and some are making wild allegations as to what happened they have to come up with something outrageous as that is what gets the publics interest,   sad thing is it is all to make money out of a missing child.

No normal decent people would lie to the police about seeing a child who wasn't there,   there are numerous people who saw Madeleine through the week,   they are normal people who would not lie to protect parents who had hidden their childs body,   their careers and everything they held dear would have been put on the line,  if Madeleine had been found.

I fail to appreciate the thought process that supposes strangers would acquiesce in a plot to hide a child's body.

It is too bizarre for words.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #97 on: April 01, 2016, 01:36:32 PM »
I fail to appreciate the thought process that supposes strangers would acquiesce in a plot to hide a child's body.

It is too bizarre for words.

This has gone on for far too long.  But at least we are now discussing on this Forum.  Please all be thankful for what you get here.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #98 on: April 01, 2016, 01:48:05 PM »
I can understand why the last photo by the pool was rejected when they were looking for a picture of Madeleine to give to the police, because it contained other people. I wonder why the tennis photo was not used though. It contained the child on her own, she was facing the camera and it was recent.

Was the photo among the holiday photos given to the PJ? Was the last photo by the pool among them? Were any of the photos given to the PJ taken on the McCann's camera?
The Last Photo EXIF says the camera was the same model as Kate's.

I cannot get any EXIF extractor to work with a copy of the Tennis Balls photo, to see if the camera model is the same or different.  That's possibly because I don't know what I'm doing.

The Last Photo is well composed, and has good brightness and contrast.

The Tennis Balls photo is poorly composed, and has poor brightness and contrast.

Perhaps the Tennis Balls photo was rushed, while there was more time for the Last Photo.  Or perhaps they were taken by 2 different people.
What's up, old man?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #99 on: April 01, 2016, 01:58:41 PM »
I fail to appreciate the thought process that supposes strangers would acquiesce in a plot to hide a child's body.

It is too bizarre for words.

At the risk of my being blackballed, Wonderfulspam was telling you that about two years ago.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #100 on: April 01, 2016, 01:58:53 PM »
The Last Photo EXIF says the camera was the same model as Kate's.

I cannot get any EXIF extractor to work with a copy of the Tennis Balls photo, to see if the camera model is the same or different.  That's possibly because I don't know what I'm doing.

The Last Photo is well composed, and has good brightness and contrast.

The Tennis Balls photo is poorly composed, and has poor brightness and contrast.

Perhaps the Tennis Balls photo was rushed, while there was more time for the Last Photo.  Or perhaps they were taken by 2 different people.

There was time to pose the pool photograph.  The tennis ball photo looks as if Madeleine was called and had just looked around from her activity to be quickly snapped.

What is the betting she dropped the balls as a result.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #101 on: April 01, 2016, 03:15:44 PM »
So that's it?  No questions about the photo itself?

The group's holiday photos seem to have been put onto CD'S and given to the PJ by Gerry and Michael Wright at some point before 10th May. I can't find copies of the tennis photo or the last photo in the PJ Files, so the question arising is were the McCann's photos handed over?

Alex Woolfall from Bell Pottinger is supposed to have transferred photos from the McCann's camera to a laptop and from there he sent them to the Press Association in London, who distributed them to the media;

Mr Woolfall transmitted the photographs to the Press Association in London, from where they were distributed to the media. The portfolio included the now famous image of Madeleine wearing a hat on a tennis court.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id65.html

There are 2,524 images associated with Madeleine McCann on the Press Association website, but I can't see the tennis one in the first two weeks after the disapperance, which is when Woolfall was there.
https://www.paimages.co.uk/search-results/fluid/?category=A,S,E&oldestfirst=1&page=8&text=madeleine%20mccann&user_q=madeleine%20mccann

So the photo doesn't seem to have been given to the PJ with all the other holiday photos, and it doesn't seem to have been sent to the Press Association. The only people who seemed to have access to it were family and friends. Pat Perkins used it in her email on 7th May, and it appeared on a poster at some point.

For Pat Perkins to have the photo by 7th May someone in Portugal either sent it directly to her or the McCann's photo's were uploaded to the file transfer protocol which Jon Corner set up on 4 May to circulate Madeleine’s image to family, friends and other supporters.

My conclusion is that the photo can't be shown to have been on the McCann's camera, otherwise it should be on the Press Association website.




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Offline Eleanor

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #102 on: April 01, 2016, 03:33:35 PM »
The group's holiday photos seem to have been put onto CD'S and given to the PJ by Gerry and Michael Wright at some point before 10th May. I can't find copies of the tennis photo or the last photo in the PJ Files, so the question arising is were the McCann's photos handed over?

Alex Woolfall from Bell Pottinger is supposed to have transferred photos from the McCann's camera to a laptop and from there he sent them to the Press Association in London, who distributed them to the media;

Mr Woolfall transmitted the photographs to the Press Association in London, from where they were distributed to the media. The portfolio included the now famous image of Madeleine wearing a hat on a tennis court.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id65.html

There are 2,524 images associated with Madeleine McCann on the Press Association website, but I can't see the tennis one in the first two weeks after the disapperance, which is when Woolfall was there.
https://www.paimages.co.uk/search-results/fluid/?category=A,S,E&oldestfirst=1&page=8&text=madeleine%20mccann&user_q=madeleine%20mccann

So the photo doesn't seem to have been given to the PJ with all the other holiday photos, and it doesn't seem to have been sent to the Press Association. The only people who seemed to have access to it were family and friends. Pat Perkins used it in her email on 7th May, and it appeared on a poster at some point.

For Pat Perkins to have the photo by 7th May someone in Portugal either sent it directly to her or the McCann's photo's were uploaded to the file transfer protocol which Jon Corner set up on 4 May to circulate Madeleine’s image to family, friends and other supporters.

My conclusion is that the photo can't be shown to have been on the McCann's camera, otherwise it should be on the Press Association website.

So No Questions were ever asked officially.

Offline xtina

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #103 on: April 02, 2016, 11:55:42 AM »
I would like to see The Questions and who asked them, about this particular Photo.

What you think of me is of no interest to me.

on the contrary Eleanor................what i think of you is no interest to me either ...I'm sure in R W you are a very nice person............. same as me
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline xtina

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #104 on: April 02, 2016, 12:02:06 PM »
Listen xtina you do know this whole conspiracy is just to sell video's don't you?

A little girl is missing and some are making wild allegations as to what happened they have to come up with something outrageous as that is what gets the publics interest,   sad thing is it is all to make money out of a missing child.

No normal decent people would lie to the police about seeing a child who wasn't there,   there are numerous people who saw Madeleine through the week,   they are normal people who would not lie to protect parents who had hidden their childs body,   their careers and everything they held dear would have been put on the line,  if Madeleine had been found.

No lace you listen............lets put this in reverse shall we

no one has made more money than the mccs from maddie

nothing more outrageous to me .than the abduction...

no one is saying anyone lied ....mistaken ....or what they assumed they saw

what did gmcc say ...find the body ..prove we killed her.. ...same as them planning a concert for a year on ...so i think it safe to assume maddie was not going to be found in the near future ...

the 12 or so lawyers well took care of there careers...and them

nothing is worse than the panorama and others promoting the abduction video..........but interesting all the same



how can you say R H has done this to make money ....when the video is free ...and he willingly gives permission to down load the video and spread it far and wide for free.

i didn't need R H to tell me ....the abduction  never took place ....he is just in a position to show all the many discrepancies.........and it seems to not just stand back and be fed ...what the mccs want us all to believe non of the films have ever been challenged either ...and have been there for years

she goes into the apartment ...finds maddie missing...knows straight away maddie has been abducted....searches the apartment ...yet still runs out leaving twins in apartment with open window/door....and puts twins in creche again the next day ...why...because she knew it was safe ....same as letting all in apartment ...destroying evidence ...because she knew there wouldn't be any ....as it turned out there wasn't

on the tennis ball photo ....were did the sunburn come from ....yet on the supposedly last photo there wasn't any....

what does G A know about the tennis photo ...that he never got chance to show ....one of the biggest travesty's of all this ...is that he got took off the case 





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