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Offline slartibartfast

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #150 on: October 28, 2017, 03:02:11 PM »
Cite for you - 

During Gerry's tennis lesson,  Madeleine and Ella came to the adjoining court with their Mini Club for a mini-tennis session.  Jane and I stayed to watch them.  It chokes me remembering how my heart soared with pride in Madeleine that morning.   She was so happy and obviously enjoying herself.  Standing there listening intently to
Cat's instructions, she looked so gorgeous in her little T.shirt and shorts, pink hat, ankle socks and new holiday sandals, that I ran back to our apartment for my camera to record the occasion.
  One of my photographs is known around the world now:  a smiling Madeleine clutching armfuls of tennis balls. At the end of their session, the children had been asked to run around the court and pick up as many balls as they could.  Madeleine had done really well and was very pleased with herself.   Gerry loves that picture.


So,  Jane was there too,  so was the Nanny, and the children were asked to run around the court and pick up the tennis balls.   So no one has come forward to say 'nope that wasn't taken at the tennis court in Portugal'  have they?

Two sentences, two facts. They may be cause and effect, they may not. It isn’t clear. IMO the McCanns have always been very careful about what they say.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #151 on: October 28, 2017, 03:03:54 PM »
Assuming the photo is genuine, it could have been taken at any time when Madeleine was at the tennis courts, not just when she was there for junior tennis.

Many tennis courts.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #152 on: October 28, 2017, 03:05:34 PM »
Why is there any doubt about this photo and when it was taken...what is the significance of the doubting

Why is it important that it be from that time and place?
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Offline Lace

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #153 on: October 28, 2017, 04:54:08 PM »
Two sentences, two facts. They may be cause and effect, they may not. It isn’t clear. IMO the McCanns have always been very careful about what they say.

I haven't a clue what you are talking about.

Offline Robin Banks

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #154 on: October 28, 2017, 06:48:55 PM »
Why is it important that it be from that time and place?

If we was to find out it was taken before the Holiday started, then it becomes less important to the case and one less photo of Maddie taken on the Holiday.

Not forgetting there was very few photo's taken in the first place.

Offline jassi

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #155 on: October 28, 2017, 07:06:15 PM »
Real or fake, its purpose was to demonstrate that she was alive & well on the Tuesday . IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #156 on: October 28, 2017, 07:16:50 PM »
If we was to find out it was taken before the Holiday started, then it becomes less important to the case and one less photo of Maddie taken on the Holiday.

Not forgetting there was very few photo's taken in the first place.

It is merely your opinion that few photographs were taken ... please remember the forum protocol that opinion cannot be stated as fact.

It is my opinion that you cannot possibly know how many photographs were taken during the holiday or even whose camera took what, for the simple reason there is no record of the content or total of all the photographs given to the Policia Judiciaria apart from the few photocopies available in the files.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #157 on: October 28, 2017, 08:53:29 PM »
It appears that the photo is not part of the official files, so it is unlikely that any provenance for It will be available. If anyone thinks they have proof of when or where the photo were taken, I am sure they can provide a cite.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline G-Unit

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #158 on: October 28, 2017, 10:01:13 PM »
It appears that the photo is not part of the official files, so it is unlikely that any provenance for It will be available. If anyone thinks they have proof of when or where the photo were taken, I am sure they can provide a cite.

So if it was given to the PJ they have withheld it for some reason. Even then, it was 10th May before anything was given to them. Somehow this photo reached a friend of the family in Liverpool by 7th May though. Someone was busy over the weekend.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #159 on: October 28, 2017, 11:19:55 PM »
So if it was given to the PJ they have withheld it for some reason. Even then, it was 10th May before anything was given to them. Somehow this photo reached a friend of the family in Liverpool by 7th May though. Someone was busy over the weekend.

Please provide cites in support of your statement. Thank you
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #160 on: October 28, 2017, 11:29:49 PM »
Please provide cites in support of your statement. Thank you

Sent May 7th 2007. 12.29 PM in an email
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAT_PERKINS.htm


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Offline Lace

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #161 on: October 29, 2017, 08:55:31 AM »
Real or fake, its purpose was to demonstrate that she was alive & well on the Tuesday . IMO

They didn't need a photo to prove that.   Madeleine went to the creche on that day the Nanny in charge would confirm that.



Offline Lace

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #162 on: October 29, 2017, 08:57:24 AM »
If we was to find out it was taken before the Holiday started, then it becomes less important to the case and one less photo of Maddie taken on the Holiday.

Not forgetting there was very few photo's taken in the first place.

Why do you say very few photo's were taken?   You don't know that.   There could be lots,  the fact you haven't seen them is no reason to say there aren't any.   Probably they had other children in them and so they haven't been made public.

Offline jassi

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #163 on: October 29, 2017, 09:05:32 AM »
They didn't need a photo to prove that.   Madeleine went to the creche on that day the Nanny in charge would confirm that.

Visual re-enforcement for any verbal evidence.
People can be mistaken, but a photo - who would argue with that, other than photoshop?  8(0(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: IS THIS TENNIS PHOTO REAL ...OR COULD IT BE FAKE...
« Reply #164 on: October 29, 2017, 09:25:04 AM »
Visual re-enforcement for any verbal evidence.
People can be mistaken, but a photo - who would argue with that, other than photoshop?  8(0(*

In my opinion loads of people have done, can and do spend a very great deal of their time and bandwith on exactly that; arguing and discussing each and every photograph which features Madeleine, ever published in the public domain.

On this thread we are playing groundhog day with yet another discussion of the 'tennis photograph' ... no doubt soon the 'last photograph' will probably receive it's airing on the forum yet again.

The technology does exist, and has done for quite some time to expose photoshop doctored images, so were I you I would have absolutely no fear that the official images of Madeleine have been interfered with for nefarious purposes.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....