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Offline pegasus

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #180 on: April 02, 2016, 11:21:02 PM »
It's not as simple as the abduction solution. That explains the missing child too. Scarpering burglar solution only explains open shutters, not missing-never-to-be-seen-again child.
It is far simpler than any abduction hypothesis - burglaries are common, abductions are extremely rare.

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #181 on: April 03, 2016, 08:12:59 AM »
If a burglar opened the shutters and the window and was confronted with a child the burglar would simply go away.
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Offline Brietta

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #182 on: April 03, 2016, 09:05:57 AM »
If a burglar opened the shutters and the window and was confronted with a child the burglar would simply go away.


The child was three years old when the intruder lifted her through the window leaving no trace but a space where a child should have been.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903401/Girl-three-kidnapped-stranger-bedroom-window-miraculously-saved-father-uncle-chase-abductor-street-tackle-him.html
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Offline G-Unit

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #183 on: April 03, 2016, 10:08:56 AM »

The child was three years old when the intruder lifted her through the window leaving no trace but a space where a child should have been.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903401/Girl-three-kidnapped-stranger-bedroom-window-miraculously-saved-father-uncle-chase-abductor-street-tackle-him.html

Was he a burglar?
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Offline Lace

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #184 on: April 03, 2016, 11:37:16 AM »

The child was three years old when the intruder lifted her through the window leaving no trace but a space where a child should have been.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903401/Girl-three-kidnapped-stranger-bedroom-window-miraculously-saved-father-uncle-chase-abductor-street-tackle-him.html


OMG,   he must have known she was in that room,   probably been watching the house.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #185 on: April 03, 2016, 12:27:09 PM »

The child was three years old when the intruder lifted her through the window leaving no trace but a space where a child should have been.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903401/Girl-three-kidnapped-stranger-bedroom-window-miraculously-saved-father-uncle-chase-abductor-street-tackle-him.html

If only Gerry had been in his apartment when his child was allegedly abducted. How different this could have been.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #186 on: April 03, 2016, 12:38:09 PM »
There's no real basis for assuming a burglar will become a child abductor, of course;

A burglar turned part of his haul over to police after discovering the video tapes he had taken depicted graphic scenes of child abuse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/burglar-steals-video-tapes-of-child-abuse-hands-them-into-police-9017867.html

Burglar rings police after bumping into dead body while robbing house
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/10131369/Burglar-rings-police-after-bumping-into-dead-body-while-robbing-house.html

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #187 on: April 03, 2016, 12:39:21 PM »
Was he a burglar?

Was he a charity collector or known to have been masquerading as one?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #188 on: April 03, 2016, 12:42:23 PM »
There's no real basis for assuming a burglar will become a child abductor, of course;

A burglar turned part of his haul over to police after discovering the video tapes he had taken depicted graphic scenes of child abuse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/burglar-steals-video-tapes-of-child-abuse-hands-them-into-police-9017867.html

Burglar rings police after bumping into dead body while robbing house
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/10131369/Burglar-rings-police-after-bumping-into-dead-body-while-robbing-house.html

But.....but.....but G he wasn't your honest British burglar but foreign and strange.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Benice

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #189 on: April 03, 2016, 12:46:36 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/05/colo-parolee-charged-with-kidnapping-burglary-in-attempted-abduction-aurora/

Colo. parolee charged with kidnapping, burglary in attempted abduction of Aurora girl
Published November 05, 2013Associated Press

AURORA, COLO. – Prosecutors have filed charges against a man accused of trying to abduct an 8-year-old girl from her bedroom in Aurora, Colo.

Twenty-six-year-old John Stanley Snorsky was charged Tuesday with several counts including kidnapping, burglary and assault.

The attempted abduction happened early in the morning on Oct. 28. According to police, the girl escaped by pinching Snorsky and running away.

Investigators say his DNA was found on the girl's clothing.

Snorsky had been on parole for a burglary conviction. He was arrested the day after the attempted abduction on an unrelated charge and later linked to the kidnapping case.

It's not clear if he has a lawyer.

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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #190 on: April 03, 2016, 12:49:30 PM »
But.....but.....but G he wasn't your honest British burglar but foreign and strange.

So were the ones in the links; one Spanish and the other from New Zealand. Thanks to the Spanish burglar a paedophile was arrested. You just can't generalise about these foreigners you know!
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #191 on: April 03, 2016, 12:50:38 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/05/colo-parolee-charged-with-kidnapping-burglary-in-attempted-abduction-aurora/

Colo. parolee charged with kidnapping, burglary in attempted abduction of Aurora girl
Published November 05, 2013Associated Press

AURORA, COLO. – Prosecutors have filed charges against a man accused of trying to abduct an 8-year-old girl from her bedroom in Aurora, Colo.

Twenty-six-year-old John Stanley Snorsky was charged Tuesday with several counts including kidnapping, burglary and assault.

The attempted abduction happened early in the morning on Oct. 28. According to police, the girl escaped by pinching Snorsky and running away.

Investigators say his DNA was found on the girl's clothing.

Snorsky had been on parole for a burglary conviction. He was arrested the day after the attempted abduction on an unrelated charge and later linked to the kidnapping case.

It's not clear if he has a lawyer.

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Can we have a similar kidnapping from the UK or indeed Portugal ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Benice

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #192 on: April 03, 2016, 12:57:15 PM »
Can we have a similar kidnapping from the UK or indeed Portugal ?

My post re a convicted burglar who was then charged with child abduction was in response to this claim by G-unit :-

''There's no real basis for assuming a burglar will become a child abductor, of course;''



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #193 on: April 03, 2016, 01:01:23 PM »
My post re a convicted burglar who was then charged with child abduction was in response to this claim by G-unit :-

''There's no real basis for assuming a burglar will become a child abductor, of course;''

In the case you quoted there seems to be no real reason for believing that the object was ever to burgle.

Now a similar UK or Portuguese case ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Benice

Re: "Charity collectors" data
« Reply #194 on: April 03, 2016, 01:07:57 PM »
In the case you quoted there seems to be no real reason for believing that the object was ever to burgle.

Now a similar UK or Portuguese case ?

And you would know that for a fact - how?

I have no examples of any other cases -  and having made the only point I wanted to make - have no interest in searching.   
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal