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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #331 on: December 03, 2018, 07:58:39 PM »
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/officer-says-leaks-made-to-force-mccanns-confession-26320440.html

No named sources there, just 'friends' of  Chief Inspector Olegário Sousa. He did accept there might be leaks, but he certainly had no proof;

And the leaks from “sources close to the investigation” which appear almost daily?

“They are undesirable. But it is difficult to establish who these ‘leaks’ are or where they are coming from. Information is probably not leaked on purpose. I believe sometimes things are said at an informal lunch after which a friend tells a friend who knows a journalist. But there’s no doubt, these leaks do complicate my job.”
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/exclusive-chief-inspector-olegario-sousa/22774
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Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #332 on: December 03, 2018, 08:33:30 PM »
No named sources there, just 'friends' of  Chief Inspector Olegário Sousa. He did accept there might be leaks, but he certainly had no proof;

And the leaks from “sources close to the investigation” which appear almost daily?

“They are undesirable. But it is difficult to establish who these ‘leaks’ are or where they are coming from. Information is probably not leaked on purpose. I believe sometimes things are said at an informal lunch after which a friend tells a friend who knows a journalist. But there’s no doubt, these leaks do complicate my job.”
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/exclusive-chief-inspector-olegario-sousa/22774
What would constitute proof that you would accept then?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #333 on: December 03, 2018, 10:19:30 PM »
What would constitute proof that you would accept then?

Someone owning up. Lots of people had information from the investigation; Portuguese and UK policemen, interpreters, translators and witnesses to name a few.
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Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #334 on: December 03, 2018, 10:22:39 PM »
Someone owning up. Lots of people had information from the investigation; Portuguese and UK policemen, interpreters, translators and witnesses to name a few.
So as that’s unlikely to ever happen you can carry on denying the PJ ever leaked, how convenient.
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Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #335 on: December 03, 2018, 10:32:16 PM »
So as that’s unlikely to ever happen you can carry on denying the PJ ever leaked, how convenient.

I said it can't be proved. I don't know whether they leaked or not.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #336 on: December 10, 2025, 08:03:56 AM »
Madeleine McCann's father calls for greater scrutiny of press https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czdgje5p3qdo
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #337 on: December 11, 2025, 08:40:29 AM »
For a man who supposedly murdered and / or disposed of his daughter’s body nearly 20 years ago it seems incredibly odd behaviour to resurface to a) remind everyone about his alleged crimes and b) deny that there is even a shred of evidence that the current and highly convenient “patsy” Christian Bruckner murdered her.  So sceptics, how do you explain this latest reappearance of the man you believe is hiding the truth about Madeleine’s disappearance?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #338 on: December 12, 2025, 08:41:43 PM »
For a man who supposedly murdered and / or disposed of his daughter’s body nearly 20 years ago it seems incredibly odd behaviour to resurface to a) remind everyone about his alleged crimes and b) deny that there is even a shred of evidence that the current and highly convenient “patsy” Christian Bruckner murdered her.  So sceptics, how do you explain this latest reappearance of the man you believe is hiding the truth about Madeleine’s disappearance?

He was once an arguido with a presumption of innocence. Be churlish not to afford  Brueckner the same presumption.

Besides if he admitted that Brueckner quite possibly was guilty there would be no reason for Madeleine’s fund not to be used for other similar cases.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #339 on: December 13, 2025, 07:16:17 AM »
He was once an arguido with a presumption of innocence. Be churlish not to afford  Brueckner the same presumption.

Besides if he admitted that Brueckner quite possibly was guilty there would be no reason for Madeleine’s fund not to be used for other similar cases.
You see how weak the argument sounds when you write it out like that?  As far as the fund is concerned the McCanns can either use it to pay for further investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance or donate it to some other case or charity.  In neither scenario do they gain from it financially so it’s really not a very satisfying explanation, but at least you had a go.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #340 on: December 13, 2025, 11:46:12 PM »
You see how weak the argument sounds when you write it out like that?  As far as the fund is concerned the McCanns can either use it to pay for further investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance or donate it to some other case or charity.  In neither scenario do they gain from it financially so it’s really not a very satisfying explanation, but at least you had a go.

Did you forget this?

‘ To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.’

Though to be fair the Find Madeleine website doesn’t look like it’s been updated in a decade if you discount the latest update on the Julia Wandelt trial and the anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance. Her birthday does get a mention by only after International Missing Children’s Day and the charity Missing People. It’s almost as if they know that she isn’t here to celebrate it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #341 on: December 14, 2025, 07:29:36 AM »
Did you forget this?

‘ To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.’

Though to be fair the Find Madeleine website doesn’t look like it’s been updated in a decade if you discount the latest update on the Julia Wandelt trial and the anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance. Her birthday does get a mention by only after International Missing Children’s Day and the charity Missing People. It’s almost as if they know that she isn’t here to celebrate it.
Laughable.  How many more years of sitting on their big pot of moolah do you think they have got to put up with before claiming financial hardship and digging in, and without managing to trigger a Captain Tom-style outcry?  Your argument makes no sense anyway when you think about it - if the money was theirs for the taking irrespective of whether Madeleine was alive or dead as you seem to be suggesting then they could have  helped themselves to the whole lot by now.  Obviously that will never happen so you need to have another think as to why the McCanns refuse to accept definitively that Madeleine was murdered and Bruckner the convenient scapegoat.
Your comments about the website (one of your pet obsessions) are quite typically spiteful.  You just can’t help yourself putting the boot in after all these years can you?  It’s sad you still feel so bitter after all this time, and unable to accept you’ve been wrong all this time. 
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