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Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #180 on: April 07, 2016, 10:34:59 PM »
If the PM held the decision whether to provide further funding to the police operation being carried out to find my child I don't think I'd be accusing him of all colour of calumnies just at the moment.

Supposition but my understanding of political processes/recent political history of No. 10 makes me think that...

David Cameron will not have made that decision.  Busy time for him.  Theresa May likely signed it off, after assurances from Scotland Yard that there is value in keeping a dedicated team on the case for the next few months.  This case is NOT a major political consideration for the government.  The institutions -- Scotland Yard, Crown Prosecution Service -- will continue to process the case in their day-to-day work.   

Gerry's remarks were clearly designed to create pressure on the PM yesterday.  Given the PM's current agenda (EU referendum; IDS fall out; Boris' leadership ambitions; Off-shore tax avoidance), I would be surprised if he had even heard about Gerry's intervention by the end of yesterday.   
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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #181 on: April 07, 2016, 10:41:41 PM »
Supposition but my understanding of political processes/recent political history of No. 10 makes me think that...

David Cameron will not have made that decision.  Busy time for him.  Theresa May likely signed it off, after assurances from Scotland Yard that there is value in keeping a dedicated team on the case for the next few months.  This case is NOT a major political consideration for the government.  The institutions -- Scotland Yard, Crown Prosecution Service -- will continue to process the case in their day-to-day work.   

Gerry's remarks were clearly designed to create pressure on the PM yesterday.  Given the PM's current agenda (EU referendum; IDS fall out; Boris' leadership ambitions; Off-shore tax avoidance), I would be surprised if he had even heard about Gerry's intervention by the end of yesterday.

You may be right gladfly but would you take the chance if you believed your child was alive and findable ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #182 on: April 07, 2016, 10:54:40 PM »
You may be right gladfly but would you take the chance if you believed your child was alive and findable ?

I'll not answer that Q. but I will make the observation that Mr McCann sounded a little indignant, naive, hyperbolic, desperate, and self-deluded all at the same time.  Hacked Off is a minor, Lib Dem dominated promotional pressure group -- not the policy making apparatus of civil liberties legislation in our great nation.

One thing it did get me to do however was reread 'I couldn't make love to Gerry'. 

Particularly eye opening excerpts included:

1) 'After Madeleine was taken from us, my sexual desire plummeted to zero.'

2) 'I know there is more to a relationship than sex, but it is still an important element.'

3) 'Deep down, though, I knew there were only two solutions [to rekindling Kate's sex life - ed]: bringing Madeleine back or conquering my mental block.'

I don't quite know what to say.

Read it for yourself: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3571775/Kate-McCann-I-couldnt-make-love-to-Gerry.html
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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #183 on: April 07, 2016, 11:06:07 PM »
I'll not answer that Q. but I will make the observation that Mr McCann sounded a little indignant, naive, hyperbolic, desperate, and self-deluded all at the same time.  Hacked Off is a minor, Lib Dem dominated promotional pressure group -- not the policy making apparatus of civil liberties legislation in our great nation.

One thing it did get me to do however was reread 'I couldn't make love to Gerry'. 

Particularly eye opening excerpts included:

1) 'After Madeleine was taken from us, my sexual desire plummeted to zero.'

2) 'I know there is more to a relationship than sex, but it is still an important element.'

3) 'Deep down, though, I knew there were only two solutions [to rekindling Kate's sex life - ed]: bringing Madeleine back or conquering my mental block.'

I don't quite know what to say.

Read it for yourself: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3571775/Kate-McCann-I-couldnt-make-love-to-Gerry.html
You do realise that these quotes were taken from Kate's book and whipped up into a salacious front page story by the Sun don't you?

Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #184 on: April 07, 2016, 11:17:35 PM »
Alfie, my dear aristocratic son, sit down and I'll explain to you today's lesson.  It's called Serialisation.

And the key points of the lesson include payment for content and taking photos to add an emotional edge to the piece.
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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #185 on: April 07, 2016, 11:22:47 PM »
Alfie, my dear aristocratic son, sit down and I'll explain to you today's lesson.  It's called Serialisation.

And the key points of the lesson include payment for content and taking photos to add an emotional edge to the piece.
If you're going to attempt to patronize me in your posts I'll have to put you on ignore too.

It truly amazes me how prurient and childishly fixated on Kate McCann and her sex life some people seem to be.  I have a lesson for these individuals and it is this - grow up.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #186 on: April 07, 2016, 11:27:55 PM »
I'll not answer that Q. but I will make the observation that Mr McCann sounded a little indignant, naive, hyperbolic, desperate, and self-deluded all at the same time.  Hacked Off is a minor, Lib Dem dominated promotional pressure group -- not the policy making apparatus of civil liberties legislation in our great nation.

One thing it did get me to do however was reread 'I couldn't make love to Gerry'. 

Particularly eye opening excerpts included:

1) 'After Madeleine was taken from us, my sexual desire plummeted to zero.'

2) 'I know there is more to a relationship than sex, but it is still an important element.'

3) 'Deep down, though, I knew there were only two solutions [to rekindling Kate's sex life - ed]: bringing Madeleine back or conquering my mental block.'

I don't quite know what to say.

Read it for yourself: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3571775/Kate-McCann-I-couldnt-make-love-to-Gerry.html

Imagine Katie Price had written the quotes above rather than Kate McCann and then complained about press intrusion. Can you guess what the reaction what be ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #187 on: April 07, 2016, 11:29:54 PM »
Imagine Katie Price had written the quotes above rather than Kate McCann and then complained about press intrusion. Can you guess what the reaction what be ?
Nowhere near as harsh as the reaction from the "sceptic" online community towards Kate, I'll wager.

Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #188 on: April 07, 2016, 11:35:52 PM »
I think I can say with almost complete certainty that the McCanns cringe about that article.  Maybe Gerry just forgot about it before appearing on television because he seemed to be suggesting he and Kate were 'passive' victims of the media.

Only the facts -- those oh-so inconvenient facts -- always have a way of catching up with us, bringing us back to reality and up from the pit of self-delusion.

The three facts again that undermine Gerry's case are:

1)  He employs a PR guru full time to offer story 'packages' to the media.
2)  He paid £500,000 to the country's largest PR company to promote his agenda.
3)  He sold the serialisation rights to Kate's book, promoting an overtly sexual theme, in a case where that is inappropriate to say the least.

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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #189 on: April 07, 2016, 11:48:58 PM »
TBH I'm not sure how an individual who is willing to sell some of the most intimate details of her relationship, details that were absolutely unnecessary in the context of her daughter's disappearance, can then bemoan her lack of privacy. For me those details were nothing to do with the search for her daughter and everything to do with satisfying the rather base tastes of the main readership of her book and it's serialisation.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline mercury

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #190 on: April 08, 2016, 12:18:11 AM »
I'll not answer that Q. but I will make the observation that Mr McCann sounded a little indignant, naive, hyperbolic, desperate, and self-deluded all at the same time.  Hacked Off is a minor, Lib Dem dominated promotional pressure group -- not the policy making apparatus of civil liberties legislation in our great nation.

One thing it did get me to do however was reread 'I couldn't make love to Gerry'. 

Particularly eye opening excerpts included:

1) 'After Madeleine was taken from us, my sexual desire plummeted to zero.'

2) 'I know there is more to a relationship than sex, but it is still an important element.'

3) 'Deep down, though, I knew there were only two solutions [to rekindling Kate's sex life - ed]: bringing Madeleine back or conquering my mental block.'

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Read it for yourself: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3571775/Kate-McCann-I-couldnt-make-love-to-Gerry.html

Me neither, to moan about press intrusion makes a mockery at best of leveson...if you push it out there you can do no less than expect it back. To take advantage of and getting paid half a million by the most read newspaper to serialise your book promoting the search for your missing child alledgedly and talking about how hard it was for your sex life has to be one of the stupidest most embarrasing thngs to do....unless of course the mccanns didnt agree to the excerpts...not seen them complain though
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #191 on: April 08, 2016, 12:25:23 AM »
Me neither, to moan about press intrusion makes a mockery at best of leveson...if you push it out there you can do no less than expect it back. To take advantage of and getting paid half a million by the most read newspaper to serialise your book promoting the search for your missing child alledgedly and talking about how hard it was for your sex life has to be one of the stupidest most embarrasing thngs to do....unless of course the mccanns didnt agree to the excerpts...not seen them complain though

I didn't hear them complain to Leveson about them as they did with the extracts from Kate's diary.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline mercury

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #192 on: April 08, 2016, 12:30:30 AM »
I didn't hear them complain to Leveson about them as they did with the extracts from Kate's diary.

Yes, not sure what the indignation was about re the diaries...conflicting evidence given at leveson as to whether they were authorised for publication or not

Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #193 on: April 08, 2016, 12:30:35 AM »
Just to confirm it was a serialisation: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3565282/We-serialise-Kate-and-Gerry-McCanns-book-Madeleine-in-The-Sun.html

Oh, and The Sun paid money for it, paid lawyers to ensure other publications did not republish it verbatim, and the McCanns even posed for some special photos such as:


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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Offline mercury

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #194 on: April 08, 2016, 12:36:11 AM »
Oh and alfred talks about salacious crime by the sun....no one forced kate mccann to almost emulate sharon stone in basic instnct!!!! Or force her to sign to reveal her sexual problems with gerry caused by the abduction


Shudders

Thats enough for one day
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