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Offline mercury

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2016, 11:33:27 PM »
I have already ... you may have missed it or misunderstood it.

Your efforts are concentrated on innocent people ... who have been thoroughly investigated.
then provide a cite to any official authority that has concluded they are innocent, you cant, because it does not exist, not from the pj, not from the judiciary, not from sy or lp

Offline Brietta

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2016, 11:34:58 PM »
Thoroughly would imply all investigative measures had been taken, right?

The answer to that lies with the Amaral investigation initially and as we know no stone was left unturned when it came to investigating the McCanns and their friends.
Do you think they would have failed to carry out all investigative measures? ... starting with ... the timeline.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2016, 11:39:55 PM »
then provide a cite to any official authority that has concluded they are innocent, you cant, because it does not exist, not from the pj, not from the judiciary, not from sy or lp

I never cease to be amazed about ignorance of the right to the presumption of innocence ... disregard of it is something which will cost Mr Amaral dear should his appeal be unsuccessful.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2016, 11:41:20 PM »
then provide a cite to any official authority that has concluded they are innocent, you cant, because it does not exist, not from the pj, not from the judiciary, not from sy or lp
not to mention the 2008 submission to the family division of the high court in London
« Last Edit: April 15, 2016, 11:53:42 PM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2016, 11:42:58 PM »
I never cease to be amazed about ignorance of the right to the presumption of innocence ... disregard of it is something which will cost Mr Amaral dear should his appeal be unsuccessful.

The rght to be presumed innocent is not the same as they ARE innocent as proclaimed by your goodself and others

Offline mercury

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2016, 11:45:31 PM »
nor that submission to a court in London.
Ah, the no clear evidence whether either ne or both are innocent? Yes, not forgetting that
And iirc this was part of the LP police case aganst givng all their files to the mccanns, in an ongoing investigation and while they were arguidos, couldnt make it up

Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2016, 11:45:55 PM »
I never cease to be amazed about ignorance of the right to the presumption of innocence ... disregard of it is something which will cost Mr Amaral dear should his appeal be unsuccessful.

I'll look forward to Kate and Gerry donating the money to the Missing People charity. 

“We are delighted with the judge’s verdict today. We want to emphasise the action was never about money."  Guess who said that in 2015.  Let's see what happens.  Could be a wonderful act of philanthropy. 
Cite: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/28/madeleine-mccann-parents-win-libel-damages-goncalo-amaral-trial


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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Offline pegasus

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2016, 11:49:06 PM »
I never cease to be amazed about ignorance of the right to the presumption of innocence ... disregard of it is something which will cost Mr Amaral dear should his appeal be unsuccessful.
Launching that private legal case cost MF donators dear

Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2016, 11:51:01 PM »
The answer to that lies with the Amaral investigation initially and as we know no stone was left unturned

Definitely untrue - as proven by this cite:

For example, the Portuguese authorities were particularly unhappy that: "Despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable." Cite Section E, Archiving Report addressed to the Attorney General: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

Maybe a better metaphor might be a Portuguese detective attempting to turn the stone over, only for a number of people to sit on the said stone.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2016, 12:04:01 AM by Gadfly1.3 »
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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2016, 11:54:27 PM »
The answer to that lies with the Amaral investigation initially and as we know no stone was left unturned when it came to investigating the McCanns and their friends.
Do you think they would have failed to carry out all investigative measures? ... starting with ... the timeline.

You must be having a laff. They are the only argudios in this case that have refused to answer questions to prove their innocence.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2016, 12:05:06 AM »
Definitely untrue - as proven by this cite:

For example, the Portuguese authorities were particularly unhappy that: "Despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable." Cite Section E, Archiving Report addressed to the Attorney General: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

Maybe a better metaphor might be a Portuguese detective attempting to turn the stone over, only for a number of people to sit on the said stone.
... definitely nothing to do with a meeting in a stone building which according to a spokesperson "was just to discuss the overall situation"

Offline Brietta

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2016, 12:18:23 AM »
Definitely untrue - as proven by this cite:

For example, the Portuguese authorities were particularly unhappy that: "Despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable." Cite Section E, Archiving Report addressed to the Attorney General: http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

Maybe a better metaphor might be a Portuguese detective attempting to turn the stone over, only for a number of people to sit on the said stone.

You are accusing me of an untruth ... that is against forum rules.

Read my post carefully.

I have clearly said the Amaral investigation.  The cite you have chosen to refute that refers to events of the Rebelo investigation.

Time to get back on topic ... Analysis of the timeline
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2016, 12:29:11 AM »

Please stick to the topic of the thread.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2016, 07:31:37 AM »
I have already ... you may have missed it or misunderstood it.

Your efforts are concentrated on innocent people ... who have been thoroughly investigated.

Thank you, but I already knew your opinion. Your mind may be made up, but mine isn't.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Analysis of the timeline
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2016, 07:57:08 AM »
Thank you, but I already knew your opinion. Your mind may be made up, but mine isn't.

Until you realise that the twice translated mom verbatim statements are not an accurate account of what the McCanns actually said you will not be able to reach a conclusion