Who would trust Bojo or Trump

[Eleanor]

Both the Democrats and Republicans are to the right of the political spectrum, compared to the UK's main 2 parties Eleanor.

Thank You, Stephen.

[stephen25000]

We don't want them Scared, Stephen.  We just want them wiped out.

That isn't going to happen Eleanor.

I have seen for myself the mindset which drives some of these people. No persuasion makes them see the reality of the situation , and they will not accept they are being manipulated.

[Miss Taken Identity]

That isn't going to happen Eleanor.

I have seen for myself the mindset which drives some of these people. No persuasion makes them see the reality of the situation , and they will not accept they are being manipulated.

Once they are not supported financially, as we have seen greed will divide, they will run and those who have long memories and shortened lives at their hands, will seek revenge. But I do hope Trump turns with Russia if he wants to stay in that fight, and aniahlate ISIS/ISIL.

[Vertigo Swirl]

She's a corrupt evil war monger who should be behind bars.

She wants to not just attack Iran but totally obliterate them.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-if-im-president-we-will-attack-iran/5460484

She was gleeful about the public sodomizing by knife of Gadaffi.

Also look up Benghazi.

What Trump has going for him is, he isn't the wrathful vengeful war whore that Hillary is.

Erm...

[Vertigo Swirl]

^^^^Erm indeed!

[Wonderfulspam]

^^^^Erm indeed!

Yes, unfortunately Trump didn't drain the swamp , fight the deep state, stop the ukraine war or be a president of peace. Instead he has continued on the same path as every president before him. Attempting to maintain unipolar dominance. Continuity of agenda. What we are witnessing in Iran with the blockage of the strait is the end of the petro-dollar system. The Iranians have said they'll let vessels through, provided they pay in Yuan, and that the gulf states need to kick out the american bases if they don't want to be targeted. America & Israel cannot stop the rise of the coming multipolar world order so they may well rather destroy the world & rule over the ashes. If Israel becomes too badly damaged, which is happening now, & at risk of collapse, they'll invoke the sampson option, which is nukes.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes, unfortunately Trump didn't drain the swamp , fight the deep state, stop the ukraine war or be a president of peace. Instead he has continued on the same path as every president before him. Attempting to maintain unipolar dominance. Continuity of agenda. What we are witnessing in Iran with the blockage of the strait is the end of the petro-dollar system. The Iranians have said they'll let vessels through, provided they pay in Yuan, and that the gulf states need to kick out the american bases if they don't want to be targeted. America & Israel cannot stop the rise of the coming multipolar world order so they may well rather destroy the world & rule over the ashes. If Israel becomes too badly damaged, which is happening now, & at risk of collapse, they'll invoke the sampson option, which is nukes.

No they won?t, don?t be silly.  And it just goes to show how wrong you were about Trump despite your protracted insistence otherwise?

[Wonderfulspam]

No they won?t, don?t be silly.  And it just goes to show how wrong you were about Trump despite your protracted insistence otherwise?

I'm more clued up on geopolitics these days. It was 10 years ago. The president doesn't run the country really & whoever you vote for you get John McCain.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm more clued up on geopolitics these days. It was 10 years ago. The president doesn't run the country really & whoever you vote for you get John McCain.

You think this current shit show would be happening under Sleepy Joe or Kamala Harris?  Don?t make me laugh.

[Wonderfulspam]

You think this current shit show would be happening under Sleepy Joe or Kamala Harris?  Don?t make me laugh.

Very possibly. This is an agenda dating back years which is tied to the greater israel project. The Biden administration finished off Assad in Syria which secured an air corridor to Iran. As far back as Bush jnr there has been a continued effort to encircle the country & it's been under sanctions for years. If you look at a map of all the military bases around Iran it is quite revealing.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Very possibly. This is an agenda dating back years which is tied to the greater israel project. The Biden administration finished off Assad in Syria which secured an air corridor to Iran. As far back as Bush jnr there has been a continued effort to encircle the country & it's been under sanctions for years. If you look at a map of all the military bases around Iran it is quite revealing.

This is all about Trump flexing his almighty ego and threatening any country or regime he thinks he can get away with bullying.  Venezuela, Greenland, Cuba, Iran, the entire rest of the world with his economic sanctions.  The man is a grade A megalomaniac who woke up to the fact that as the most powerful man in the world he can do whatever he wants with seeming impunity.  Hopefully he will get a reality check in the mid-terms (though of course if the results are unfavorable to him it will not be his fault , it will be because the results were rigged, obviously). 

[Wonderfulspam]

This is all about Trump flexing his almighty ego and threatening any country or regime he thinks he can get away with bullying.  Venezuela, Greenland, Cuba, Iran, the entire rest of the world with his economic sanctions.  The man is a grade A megalomaniac who woke up to the fact that as the most powerful man in the world he can do whatever he wants with seeming impunity.  Hopefully he will get a reality check in the mid-terms (though of course if the results are unfavorable to him it will not be his fault , it will be because the results were rigged, obviously).

You don't really believe that do you? That this is all about Trump? He's too daft to know what he's doing. America isn't run by Trump. There is a permanent state behind the scenes. It's an empire, & it's ending. The dollar is being dumped by BRICS countries. The national debt is unpayable. There's a giant stock market bubble the size of which the world has never seen. America doesn't produce anything anymore. All it manufactures are overly expensive weapons. It's losing the proxy war in Ukraine. It can't stop the economic & military rise of China & so it's going after the weakest partner to stop oil exports to China. I read people were panic buying petrol in Manchester yesterday. We've seen nothing yet. Wait until oil hits $200 a barrel next week.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You don't really believe that do you? That this is all about Trump? He's too daft to know what he's doing. America isn't run by Trump. There is a permanent state behind the scenes. It's an empire, & it's ending. The dollar is being dumped by BRICS countries. The national debt is unpayable. There's a giant stock market bubble the size of which the world has never seen. America doesn't produce anything anymore. All it manufactures are overly expensive weapons. It's losing the proxy war in Ukraine. It can't stop the economic & military rise of China & so it's going after the weakest partner to stop oil exports to China. I read people were panic buying petrol in Manchester yesterday. We've seen nothing yet. Wait until oil hits $200 a barrel next week.

Who is running America then?  John McCain is dead so obviously not him. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Who is running America then?  John McCain is dead so obviously not him.

IDK who pulls the strings but presidents in the past have all taken actions in various middle east countries around Iran that have brought us to this point. Trump didn't wake up one morning & suddenly decide he wanted to bomb Iran. The U.S has been gearing up to attack since the islamic revolution that kicked out America in 1979. The problem for the U.S is that Iran have been preparing for this attack since then also. They are a major producer of effective low cost drones & their ability to block shipping means they have the world economy by the balls. Anyway, Idk how this is going to end but if the shipping remains blocked its going to bankrupt Americas Gulf state allies & give them even more incentive to shut their American bases boot out all their troops, ditch selling their oil in dollars & trade in Yuan. If that happens it will be the end of the American Empire & we as vassals of the U.S will be deeply in the financial shit.

[Vertigo Swirl]

IDK who pulls the strings but presidents in the past have all taken actions in various middle east countries around Iran that have brought us to this point. Trump didn't wake up one morning & suddenly decide he wanted to bomb Iran. The U.S has been gearing up to attack since the islamic revolution that kicked out America in 1979. The problem for the U.S is that Iran have been preparing for this attack since then also. They are a major producer of effective low cost drones & their ability to block shipping means they have the world economy by the balls. Anyway, Idk how this is going to end but if the shipping remains blocked its going to bankrupt Americas Gulf state allies & give them even more incentive to shut their American bases boot out all their troops, ditch selling their oil in dollars & trade in Yuan. If that happens it will be the end of the American Empire & we as vassals of the U.S will be deeply in the financial shit.

And what?s in it for the secret cabal that rules America without any input from any of its presidents?